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<blockquote>''Not to be confused with [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]].''</blockquote>
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{{Ideology
{{Ideology
|title=[[File:Menslib.png]] Men's Liberation [[File:Menslibnoears.png]]
|title=[[File:Menslib.png]] Men's Liberation [[File:Menslibnoears.png]]
|aliases= Menslib<br>[[File:Bropill.png]] Bropill<br>[[File:Soyjak.png]] Soycuck/Fake MRA (by [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]])<br>
|aliases={{Collapse|Menslib<br>
[[File:NymN.png]] Soyboy (according to [[File:Radfem.png]] [[Radical Feminism]] and [[File:Altr.png]] [[Alt-Right]])<br>  
[[File:Bropill.png]] Bropill<br>Literally [[File:Gigachad.png]] Gigachad<br>
[[File:Femboy.png]] Femboy (some) <br>
[[File:Soyjak.png]] Soycuck/Fake MRA (by [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]])<br>
Catboy(Sometimes) <br>
Men With Daddy Issue/Fatherless Weirdo (by [[File:Altl.png]] [[Alt-Lite]])<br>
[[File:Femboy.png]] Non-Masculine Manosphere (by [[File:Esofash.png]] [[Esoteric Fascism]])<br> Positive Masculinity (by [[File:Reddit.png]] Redditors)<br>
[[File:NymN.png]] Soyboy (according to [[File:Altr.png]] [[Alt-Right]])<br>
|influences=[[File:AntiSexism.png]] Anti-Sexism <br>
[[File:Femboy.png]] Femboy (some)<br>
[[File:CatBoy.png]] Catboy(Sometimes)<br>
[[File:Femboy.png]] Non-Masculine Manosphere (by [[File:Esofash.png]] [[Esoteric Fascism]])<br>
Positive Masculinity (by [[File:Reddit.png]] Redditors)<br>
Misguided pro-gender males (by [[File:Post-Genderism.png]] [[Postgenderism]])<br>
[[File:Altl-hijack-menslib.png]] MRA-Lite (Accused by [[File:Radfem.png]] [[Radical Feminism]])
}}
|influences=[[File:AntiSexism.png]] Anti-Sexism<br>
[[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]]<br>
[[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]]<br>
[[File: Progress.png]] [[Progressivism]] <br>
[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]]<br>
|influenced=[[File:Braincels.png]] [[Manosphere#Braincels|Braincels]] (partially)<br>
|influenced={{Collapse|
[[File:Hfash.png]] [[Homonationalism|Homofascism]] (some)<br>
[[File:Braincels.png]] [[Manosphere#Braincels|Braincels]] (partially)<br>
[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]] (some)
[[File:Femboycon.png]] [[Homoconservatism#Femboy Conservatism|Femboy Conservatism]]<br>
|theorists =  
[[File:Hfash.png]] [[Homofascism]] (some)<br>
[[File:Homonaticon.png]] {{PCBA|Homonationalism}} (some)<br>
[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]] (some)<br>
[[File:Yang2020.png]] [[Social Libertarianism|Yangism]]
}}
|theorists=[[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Americas''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Tribal.png]] [[Tribalism|Robert Bly]] (1926-2021) (Mythopoetic Men's Movement) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
*[[File:Tribal.png]] [[Tribalism|Robert Bly]] (1926-2021) (Mythopoetic Men's Movement) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
*[[File:Map.png]] [[Feminism|Warren Farrell]] (1943-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
*[[File:Map.png]] [[Feminism|Warren Farrell]] (1943-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA (formerly, before the 80's)
*[[File:Vaush.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Ian Kochinski "Vaush"]] (1994-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
*[[File:Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism.png]] [[Radical Feminism|Norah Vincent]] (1968-2022) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
|examples = [[File:Tribal.png]] [[Tribalism|The Mythopoetic Men's Movement]] (debatably)  
*[[File:Incel.png]] [[Liberalism|Jack Richard Peterson]] (???-), [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
|likes=Pro-male activism <br> [[File:AntiSexism.png]] Anti-Sexist action <br> Gender equality <br> Positive masculinity
}}
|dislikes=[[File:Mansphere.png]] Manosphere type MRAs <br>[[File:Man-Hating Feminism.png]] Anti-Male feminists <br> Blanket statements applied to all men <br> Toxic masculinity
[[File:Cball-Commonwealth.png]] '''Commonwealth Realm''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:David_bowie.png]] [[Humanism|David Bowie]] (1947-2016) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
}}
[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Altl-hijack-menslib.png]] [[Alt-Lite|Experto en Igualdad]] (¿-) [[File:Cball-Spain.png]] Spain
}}
|examples=[[File:Tribal.png]] [[Tribalism|The Mythopoetic Men's Movement]] (debatably)  
|likes=Pro-male activism<br>
[[File:AntiSexism.png]] Anti-Sexist action<br>
Gender equality<br>
[[File:Male-icon.png]] Positive masculinity
|dislikes=[[File:Mansphere.png]] Manosphere type MRAs<br>
[[File:Man-Hating Feminism.png]] Anti-Male feminists<br>
Blanket statements applied to all men<br>
Toxic masculinity<br>
[[File:Altl-hijack-menslib.png]] [[Alt-Lite|Hijackers]]
|image=<gallery>Menslibears.png|With Ears
|image=<gallery>Menslibears.png|With Ears
Menlib.png|Earless
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|alignments=[[File:nonquadrant.png]] [[:Category:Non-Quadrant|NonQuad]]<br>
[[File:Prgess.png]] [[:Category:Culturally Left|Culturally Left]]<br>
[[File:Prgess.png]] [[:Category:Culturally Left|Culturally Left]]<br>
[[File:Male-icon.png]] [[Masculism (Disambiguation)|Masculism]] gang<br>
[[File:Fem.png]] [[:Category:Feminists|Feminists]] (some)<br>
[[File:Fem.png]] [[:Category:Feminists|Feminists]] (some)<br>
[[File:Gay.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|LGBT]] (some)<br>
[[File:Gay.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|LGBT]] (some)<br>
[[File:Male-icon.png]] [[Masculism]] gang
|song=[https://youtu.be/9GkVhgIeGJQ Boys Don't Cry]<br>
|song= [https://youtu.be/9GkVhgIeGJQ Boys Don't Cry]<br>
[https://youtu.be/3ngpsBSdObE Can You Feel My Heart]<br>
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6AVRCQBc59w Can You Feel My Heart]<br>
[https://youtu.be/SgHQKaT0ZB4 Can You Feel My Heart, but slowed and pitched down 0.75x]<br>
[https://youtu.be/SgHQKaT0ZB4 Can You Feel My Heart, but slowed and pitched down 0.75x] <br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ziqtyseR3M Everytime We Touch (Remix) ✕]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ziqtyseR3M Everytime We Touch (Remix) ✕]
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SiiRx7GDzI 2019 Guy]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SiiRx7GDzI 2019 Guy]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcAp4nmTZCA Be Nice To Me]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcAp4nmTZCA Be Nice To Me]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF8TE1fowUU Your little devil apocalypse (sung by Iruma and Lied)]<br>
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5IpWXWub0 Joji - Pretty Boy]<br>
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyFI-jpDkQA Shingo Mama no Oha-Rock]
'''Men's Liberation''' is a movement focused on the restraints that modern society puts on men, particularly their ability to openly express their feelings and emotions, and to undertake traditionally not "manly" tasks. They are generally supportive of feminist movements but they may not get along all of the time. Usually, identify as "anti-sexist" but can sometimes call themselves feminists depending on the context.  
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'''Men's Liberation''' is a movement focused on the restraints that modern society puts on men, particularly their ability to openly express their feelings and emotions, and to undertake traditionally not "manly" tasks. They are generally supportive of feminist movements but they may not get along all of the time. Can either identify as "anti-sexist" or feminist depending on the context.  


==History==
==History==
(WIP)
(WIP)
==Beliefs==
==Beliefs==
===Relationship & disagreements with Feminism===


As said before, he generally believes in most or all the base Feminist principles and beliefs about the status quo, that the patriarchy is a real cultural & legislative force, that women are extremely oppressed in modern society, and that misogyny is a real & big problem that should be combated, alongside using many Feminist concepts like intersectionality, aiming to apply these concepts to what he sees as men's issues. Because of this, he will usually view himself as a Feminist, and support her wherever she goes when it comes to her talking about women's issues. However, his relationship with Feminism is usually very muted or in some cases, even tense in practice because (similar to other Feminist offshoots like [[Postcolonial Feminism]] or often Feminism's own experiences with 'Men') in his experience many or often most Feminists have disagreed with or not seen much importance in tackling what he sees as important men's issues like disagreeing on the prominence of male rape, where he believes Feminists talking about rape as a women's issue and as something that is primarily done by men to women erases male SA victims, who he believes are much more numerous than reported (and in general, he believes many feminist movements that are aimed primarily at women should be aimed at everyone like feminists' 'body positive' and 'sex positive' movements) or that using neckbeard as an insult criticizes someone by how they look which he sees as toxic.  
MensLib advocates share the same conceptual bases as Feminist theory, from which it essentially originates, seeing patriarchy as a key social structure in understanding the attribution of gender roles and relationships between genders in society, namely the mechanisms and structures perpetuating gendered oppression and men's domination over women. They use similar theoretical corpus and methods applied to the question of men's issues, such as rapes and sexual assaults performed on males (mostly by other males), deconstruction of traditional masculinity and criticism of beauty and behavioral standards it forces onto men.
 
They generally speaking identify as Feminists or Pro-Feminists, most of the time supporting the movement as such. Some Feminists however look at this with a wary eye, as they may see the emphasize on specific men's issues borne out of patriarchal structures, while consensually agreed upon in the movement, as much more secondary compared to the extent of women's oppression, and as deviating the focus of the movement.  


However, his primary source of disagreement with Feminism is on how he and Feminists view people who struggle with dating and forming relationships. Feminism generally believes these issues stem from a lack of self-confidence and that this coupled with respecting women's boundaries is most of what lonely men need to do to find a partner or form any other type of relationship. Menslib believes this advice is too simple and often idealistic and that dating involves him doing a lot of work and making a lot of guesses when it comes to making a move, which he often finds unfair or exhausting. He also believes many or most women find men who don't meet expectations he believes are lifted from patriarchy like height, social/career status, physical ability/fitness, and/or income are found less attractive by women, alongside believing a lot of women will find that certain types of men who look less traditionally masculine are less desirable to them and may treat them more negatively. He also finds most women aren't willing to let men be emotionally vulnerable as they say, even if Menslib wouldn't view this as a female ruse like Manosphere would. Most Feminists will generally acknowledge these things are bad but they believe men should either simply avoid these women, disagree with his interpretation of those terms or emphasize her belief that no one is entitled to a relationship (romantic or platonic). Menslib acknowledges you can't (and/or shouldn't) force people to love eachother but believes this is unhelpful and undersells how normal it is to want a relationship akin to how while forcing people into friendships is wrong, involuntary loneliness is still something that should be seen as something that society should try to prevent. (and Menslib is often speaking from experience about this).
MensLib advocates understand how men's issues often intersect with race, sexual orientation and identity, disability, socioeconomic status and other axes of identity.  


==Personality==
==Personality==
Unlike [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]], he is portrayed as being actually a genuinely kind person to people and tries to treat everybody equally. Still, some feminists don't trust him completely and other men (especially [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]]) call him a cuck or soyboy. He wants to be friends with [[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]] but she is a bit skeptical of him due to his advocacy for men's rights, even if he ends up siding with her on most issues.
Unlike [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]], he is portrayed as being actually a genuinely kind person to people and tries to treat everybody equally. Still, some feminists don't trust him completely and other men (especially [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]]) call him a cuck or soyboy. He wants to be friends with [[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]] but she is a bit skeptical of him due to his advocacy for men's rights, even if he ends up siding with her on most issues.


When venting about his personal problems, tends to talk about lacking physical contact, intimacy, wanting to express his feelings (crying in particular), and often feeling bad about his sexuality. He often just wants intimacy or to be cuddled and believes male gender roles don't allow for him and men in general to do or receive those things. This can either be exploited for ad-hominem attacks similar to manosphere or used to portray him as someone who genuinely relates to other men who feel their role in society has vanished and can actually talk to and empathize with them and their issues instead of ignoring them and letting Manosphere pick them up.
==How to Draw==
 
Regarding his views regarding gender inequality, he tends to (generally) believe that the [[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]] is at least somewhat pervasive culturally and that it affects everyone negatively, he often believes and emphasizes that patriarchal expectations can be enforced by women as well and that it's usually not as simple as an oppressor-oppressed dynamic. He believes that [[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]] as an idea misunderstands the equal vulnerability of average men within society and is inherently exclusive to men who do not conform to the roles it prefers. Lastly, he often stresses the importance of [[File:Intersec.png]] Intersectionality, alongside also not describing it as a simple oppressor-oppressed axis when talking about men's and women's issues, and often emphasizes the patriarchy as it relates to [[File:Trans.png]] Trans or [[File:Gay.png]] Gay men, as he believes these men are more prone to defy patriarchal gendered expectations and thus be harmed by and have different perspectives on it as a result.
 
Regardless, he argues that manliness should not be defined by traditional perceptions of the term and acts how he wants whether it be considered traditionally masculine or otherwise. Sometimes he may act like a [[File:Femboy.png]] femboy but is still proud of his masculinity. He also lifts, not because he wants to impress anyone but for his own betterment. Known to call his friends "King" or "lad".
 
== How to Draw ==
{{Flag|Menslib_flag.svg}}  
{{Flag|Menslib_flag.svg}}  
#Draw a ball with ears
#Draw a ball with ears
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===Friends===
===Friends===


*[[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]] - Although we may argue sometimes, you are still a friend and an ally, especially in overcoming toxic masculinity. (Just please tolerate me more.)
*[[File:Long.png]] [[Longism]] - Ah yes, ALL MEN ARE KINGS!
*[[File:Long.png]] [[Longism]] - Ah yes, ALL MEN ARE KINGS!
*[[File:Gay.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|Gay Men]] & [[File:Trans.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|Trans Men]] - KINGS!!
*[[File:Gay.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|Gay Men]] & [[File:Trans.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|Trans Men]] - KINGS!!
*[[File:Progress.png]] [[Progressivism]] - I agree with you that gender stereotypes harm both women and men and that we should work towards gender equality. Even if we may not exactly agree on the nature of the [[File:Pat.png]] Patriarchy, I still see you as an ally.  
*[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]] - I agree with you that gender stereotypes harm both women and men and that we should work towards gender equality. Even if we may not exactly agree on the nature of the [[File:Pat.png]] Patriarchy, I still see you as an ally.  
*[[File:Civlibert.png]] [[Civil Libertarianism]] - Expansive civil liberties? Gender equality? LGBT rights? Yeah, this is it, based!
*[[File:Civlibert.png]] [[Civil Libertarianism]] - Expansive civil liberties? Gender equality? LGBT rights? Yeah, this is it, based!


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*[[File:Libertfem.png]] [[Libertarian Feminism]] - While I support sex workers of all types and genders, Feminism should be about pointing out the systemic injustices of society and correcting them on a systemic & societal level, including in sex work! How do you expect to do that within a pure individualist framework of Libertarianism?  I don't hate you and I definitely don't hate your job, but I just think you're missing the point.
*[[File:Libertfem.png]] [[Libertarian Feminism]] - While I support sex workers of all types and genders, Feminism should be about pointing out the systemic injustices of society and correcting them on a systemic & societal level, including in sex work! How do you expect to do that within a pure individualist framework of Libertarianism?  I don't hate you and I definitely don't hate your job, but I just think you're missing the point.
*[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]] - You could've been an ally, and we once worked together in the past, but you're just incredibly misguided. If you want people to care more about our issues, you need to drop the fervent misogyny, as well as the other discriminatory views a lot of your factions hold. <small>''<s>And stop calling me a soyboy!</s>''</small>'' If you want men's empowerment, you need to respect feminism as a legitimately positive movement and not the devilish misandrist cult you portray it to be. Because the feminists, for all of their flaws, are our sisters in the struggle to build a better future for all.
*[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]] - You could've been an ally, and we once worked together in the past, but you're just incredibly misguided. If you want people to care more about our issues, you need to drop the fervent misogyny, as well as the other discriminatory views a lot of your factions hold. <small>''<s>And stop calling me a soyboy!</s>''</small>'' If you want men's empowerment, you need to respect feminism as a legitimately positive movement and not the devilish misandrist cult you portray it to be. Because the feminists, for all of their flaws, are our sisters in the struggle to build a better future for all.
*[[File:Post-Genderism.png]] [[Postgenderism]] - I honestly don't dislike you that much and don't mind the transhumanist influence, but you should really try to put yourself in a trans person's or in anyone else that lacks the gendered affirmation they want shoes before saying that we should abolish gender/abolish gender roles. Have you ever thought that some people actually like being seen as their gender?
**[[File:Mansphere.png]] - Silly <s>soy</s>boy, you that thinks feminists will accept you? If you don't believe me, just look at those femoid echo chambers like Ovarit or Mumsnet and be surprised how they hate you at all costs.
*[[File:Hfash-unc.png]] [[Homonationalism]] - You like femboys and tTwinks because you like that they're "cute little gay bois", I like femboys because they are non-conforming to gender roles... We are not the same. Also, you're just a nutcase, especially toward women.
*[[File:Post-Genderism.png]] [[Postgenderism]] - I honestly don't dislike you that much and don't mind the transhumanist influence, but you should really try to put yourself in a trans person's or anyone else that lacks the gendered affirmation they want shoes before saying that we should abolish gender/abolish gender roles. Have you ever thought that some people actually like being seen as their gender?
*[[File:Hfash.png]] [[Homofascism#Homofascism|Homofascism]] - You like femboys and twinks because they're "cute little gay bois", I like femboys because they are non-conforming to gender roles. Also, you're just a nutcase, especially toward women.
*[[File:Hcon.png]] [[Homoconservatism]] - A varyingly less bigoted version of the guy above. Some of you honestly aren't that bad, but your "Drop the T" faction is just transphobic bullshit.


===Enemies===
===Enemies===
*[[File:Strato.png]] [[Stratocracy|Military]] - Male-only conscription is unfair, and is based on male dispersibility as well as fragile masculinity! Why should men and ONLY men be seen as their duty to die in wars for the nation? While fighting for what you believe in can be very much justified if not commendable, obsessing over it as what men should unquestionably identify themselves with is a toxic mentality that only hurts men.
*[[File:Strato.png]] [[Stratocracy|The Military]] - Male-only conscription is unfair, and is based on male dispersibility as well as fragile masculinity! Why should men and ONLY men be seen as their duty to die in wars for the nation? While fighting for what you believe in can be very much justified if not commendable, obsessing over it as what men should unquestionably identify themselves with is a toxic mentality that only hurts men.
*[[File:Altr.png]] [[Alt-Right]] - So, you think men being used as cannon fodder is empowering? Oh, and you're just insane by the way. I will pass...
*[[File:Altr.png]] [[Alt-Right]] - So, you think men being used as cannon fodder is empowering? Oh, and you're just insane by the way. I will pass...
*[[File:Altl.png]] [[Alt-Lite]] - No, toxic masculinity isn't a man-hating phrase. Now stop trying to hijack my movement, you closet bigot!
*[[File:Altl.png]] [[Alt-Lite]] - No, toxic masculinity isn't a man-hating phrase. Now stop trying to hijack my movement, you closet bigot!
*[[File:Radfem.png]] [[Radical Feminism]] - I came about as a response to you, but you just seem to hate men. Women are not the only victims you know... Also, why can't I act feminine? I will act how I want. And your comments, postings, and "guidelines" on FDS are literally oppressing men and cringe.
*[[File:Radfem.png]] [[Radical Feminism]] & [[File:Nazfem.png]] [[National Feminism]] - ''sigh'' I am done with negotiating; I am not gonna bother with a narrow-minded ultrabigot like you anymore. <s>Tbh you deserve what [[File:Avar.png|frameless]] [[File:Anfashf.png|frameless]] [[File:Homofash.png|frameless]] [[File:Mansphere.png|frameless]] they did to you  lol.</s> And your comments, postings, and "guidelines" on FDS are literally cringe femcel dogshit.
*[[File:Nazfem.png]] [[National Feminism]] - My arch nemesis-- a literal Feminazi!
**[[File:Radfem.png]] - I repeat again - It doesn't matter how men are feminine or masculine because ALL of them are rapists and violent beasts. You can wear dresses and don't follow gender roles, but for the last time - '''STAY AWAY''' from women, you misogynistic biological oppressors! <s>At least you're better than those trannies.</s>
*[[File:Mat-0.png]] [[Matriarchy]] - Empowering females for the sake of empowering is bad. Also, pre-designed rules for both genders ain't sound right.
*[[File:Mat-0.png]] [[Matriarchy]] - Empowering females for the sake of empowering is bad. Also, pre-designed rules for both genders ain't sound right.
*[[File:Anarcho-Fascismalt.png]] [[Anarcho-Fascism|Nilssonian Anarcho-Fascism]] - Bigot, misogynistic, violent, racist, xenophobic, reactionary, etc... seriously this guy is crazy AF. The manosphere ain't sending its best.
*[[File:Anarcho-Fascismalt.png]] [[Anarcho-Fascism|Nilssonian Anarcho-Fascism]] - Bigot, misogynistic, violent, racist, xenophobic, reactionary, etc... seriously this guy is crazy AF. The manosphere ain't sending its best.
*[[File:Jackanfash.png]] [[Anarcho-Fascism|Donnovanian Anarcho-Fascism]] - His Libleft and esoteric brother, he's even more violent and savage. Also, why don't you accept that you are homosexual?
*[[File:Jackanfash.png]] [[Anarcho-Fascism|Donnovanian Anarcho-Fascism]] - His Libleft and esoteric brother, he's even more violent and savage. Also, why don't you accept that you are homosexual?
*[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]] - Hey! How a man wants to dress is his own business! Stop permaban me you totalitarian fuck!
*[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]] - Hey! How a man wants to dress is his own business! Stop permaban me you totalitarian fuck!
*[[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]] - While in many ways you might be weaker than ever thanks to [[File:Progress.png]] [[Progressivism]], your supporters are still powerful, your victims are still numerous, and your gender roles still SUCK!
*[[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]] - While in many ways you might be weaker than ever thanks to [[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]], your supporters are still powerful, your victims are still numerous, and your gender roles still SUCK!
*[[File:Plcn2.png]] [[Paleoconservatism]] - You're the BIGGEST BIGOT I've ever encountered. Not only do you hate my [[File:Fem.png]] friend just because she wants rights over herself, you want men to be restricted to their "traditional" roles of the patriarchy. You actively want to punish us if we are even a little bit feminine/non-masculine. You also hate the LGBT as well, which is surprising since many of you, especially people like [[File:Fuente.png]] HIM, secretly are gay themselves. Go die in a ditch, you bigot scumbag.
*[[File:Plcn2.png]] [[Paleoconservatism]] - You're the BIGGEST BIGOT I've ever encountered. Not only do you hate my [[File:Fem.png]] friend just because she wants rights over herself, you want men to be restricted to their "traditional" roles of the patriarchy. You actively want to punish us if we are even a little bit feminine/non-masculine. You also hate the LGBT as well, which is surprising since many of you, especially people like [[File:Fuente.png]] HIM, secretly are gay themselves. Go die in a ditch, you bigot scumbag.
*[[File:Krater.png]] [[Kraterocracy]] - What the FUCK? How... What... I didn't have even words to describe, how I hate you!
*[[File:Avar.png]] [[Avaritionism]] - Oh fuck. You like [[File:Anarcho-Fascismalt.png]] him and [[File:Krater.png]] him? You are the worst!
**[[File:Avar.png]] - And what do you expect? Your or strong (what are you don't want to be), or you dead/slave. State of nature, my friend.


==Further Reading==
==Further Reading==
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* [https://youtube.com/c/MacabreStorytelling Macabre Storytelling] (sometimes)
* [https://youtube.com/c/MacabreStorytelling Macabre Storytelling] (sometimes)


===Literature===
* [https://www.brookings.edu/book/of-boys-and-men/ Of Boys and Men - ''Why the modern male is struggling, Why it matters and What to do about it''] by Richard V. Reeves [[File:Soclib.png]]
* [https://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Year-Disguised/dp/0143038702  ''Self Made Man''] by Norah Vincent [[File:Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism.png]]
===Online communities===
===Online communities===


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Latest revision as of 14:52, 27 May 2024

Not to be confused with Manosphere.

Men's Liberation is a movement focused on the restraints that modern society puts on men, particularly their ability to openly express their feelings and emotions, and to undertake traditionally not "manly" tasks. They are generally supportive of feminist movements but they may not get along all of the time. Can either identify as "anti-sexist" or feminist depending on the context.

History

(WIP)

Beliefs

MensLib advocates share the same conceptual bases as Feminist theory, from which it essentially originates, seeing patriarchy as a key social structure in understanding the attribution of gender roles and relationships between genders in society, namely the mechanisms and structures perpetuating gendered oppression and men's domination over women. They use similar theoretical corpus and methods applied to the question of men's issues, such as rapes and sexual assaults performed on males (mostly by other males), deconstruction of traditional masculinity and criticism of beauty and behavioral standards it forces onto men.

They generally speaking identify as Feminists or Pro-Feminists, most of the time supporting the movement as such. Some Feminists however look at this with a wary eye, as they may see the emphasize on specific men's issues borne out of patriarchal structures, while consensually agreed upon in the movement, as much more secondary compared to the extent of women's oppression, and as deviating the focus of the movement.

MensLib advocates understand how men's issues often intersect with race, sexual orientation and identity, disability, socioeconomic status and other axes of identity.

Personality

Unlike Manosphere, he is portrayed as being actually a genuinely kind person to people and tries to treat everybody equally. Still, some feminists don't trust him completely and other men (especially Manosphere) call him a cuck or soyboy. He wants to be friends with Feminism but she is a bit skeptical of him due to his advocacy for men's rights, even if he ends up siding with her on most issues.

How to Draw

Flag of Men's Liberation
  1. Draw a ball with ears
  2. Color it blue
  3. Add some spots
  4. Add eyes
Color Name HEX RGB
Blue #3960A0 57, 96, 160
Green #5E9C52 94, 156, 82


Relations

Friends

  • Longism - Ah yes, ALL MEN ARE KINGS!
  • Gay Men & Trans Men - KINGS!!
  • Progressivism - I agree with you that gender stereotypes harm both women and men and that we should work towards gender equality. Even if we may not exactly agree on the nature of the Patriarchy, I still see you as an ally.
  • Civil Libertarianism - Expansive civil liberties? Gender equality? LGBT rights? Yeah, this is it, based!

Frenemies

  • Liberal Feminism - Yes, both women and men should be free! But NGL, "The future is female" sounds pretty cringe.
  • Libertarian Feminism - While I support sex workers of all types and genders, Feminism should be about pointing out the systemic injustices of society and correcting them on a systemic & societal level, including in sex work! How do you expect to do that within a pure individualist framework of Libertarianism? I don't hate you and I definitely don't hate your job, but I just think you're missing the point.
  • Manosphere - You could've been an ally, and we once worked together in the past, but you're just incredibly misguided. If you want people to care more about our issues, you need to drop the fervent misogyny, as well as the other discriminatory views a lot of your factions hold. And stop calling me a soyboy! If you want men's empowerment, you need to respect feminism as a legitimately positive movement and not the devilish misandrist cult you portray it to be. Because the feminists, for all of their flaws, are our sisters in the struggle to build a better future for all.
    • - Silly soyboy, you that thinks feminists will accept you? If you don't believe me, just look at those femoid echo chambers like Ovarit or Mumsnet and be surprised how they hate you at all costs.
  • Postgenderism - I honestly don't dislike you that much and don't mind the transhumanist influence, but you should really try to put yourself in a trans person's or anyone else that lacks the gendered affirmation they want shoes before saying that we should abolish gender/abolish gender roles. Have you ever thought that some people actually like being seen as their gender?
  • Homofascism - You like femboys and twinks because they're "cute little gay bois", I like femboys because they are non-conforming to gender roles. Also, you're just a nutcase, especially toward women.
  • Homoconservatism - A varyingly less bigoted version of the guy above. Some of you honestly aren't that bad, but your "Drop the T" faction is just transphobic bullshit.

Enemies

  • The Military - Male-only conscription is unfair, and is based on male dispersibility as well as fragile masculinity! Why should men and ONLY men be seen as their duty to die in wars for the nation? While fighting for what you believe in can be very much justified if not commendable, obsessing over it as what men should unquestionably identify themselves with is a toxic mentality that only hurts men.
  • Alt-Right - So, you think men being used as cannon fodder is empowering? Oh, and you're just insane by the way. I will pass...
  • Alt-Lite - No, toxic masculinity isn't a man-hating phrase. Now stop trying to hijack my movement, you closet bigot!
  • Radical Feminism & National Feminism - sigh I am done with negotiating; I am not gonna bother with a narrow-minded ultrabigot like you anymore. Tbh you deserve what they did to you lol. And your comments, postings, and "guidelines" on FDS are literally cringe femcel dogshit.
    • - I repeat again - It doesn't matter how men are feminine or masculine because ALL of them are rapists and violent beasts. You can wear dresses and don't follow gender roles, but for the last time - STAY AWAY from women, you misogynistic biological oppressors! At least you're better than those trannies.
  • Matriarchy - Empowering females for the sake of empowering is bad. Also, pre-designed rules for both genders ain't sound right.
  • Nilssonian Anarcho-Fascism - Bigot, misogynistic, violent, racist, xenophobic, reactionary, etc... seriously this guy is crazy AF. The manosphere ain't sending its best.
  • Donnovanian Anarcho-Fascism - His Libleft and esoteric brother, he's even more violent and savage. Also, why don't you accept that you are homosexual?
  • Dengism - Hey! How a man wants to dress is his own business! Stop permaban me you totalitarian fuck!
  • Patriarchy - While in many ways you might be weaker than ever thanks to Progressivism, your supporters are still powerful, your victims are still numerous, and your gender roles still SUCK!
  • Paleoconservatism - You're the BIGGEST BIGOT I've ever encountered. Not only do you hate my friend just because she wants rights over herself, you want men to be restricted to their "traditional" roles of the patriarchy. You actively want to punish us if we are even a little bit feminine/non-masculine. You also hate the LGBT as well, which is surprising since many of you, especially people like HIM, secretly are gay themselves. Go die in a ditch, you bigot scumbag.
  • Kraterocracy - What the FUCK? How... What... I didn't have even words to describe, how I hate you!
  • Avaritionism - Oh fuck. You like him and him? You are the worst!
    • - And what do you expect? Your or strong (what are you don't want to be), or you dead/slave. State of nature, my friend.

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