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'''Antinatalism''' is the ethical view that negatively values coming into existence and procreation, and judges procreation as morally wrong. Antinatalists argue that humans should abstain from procreation because it is morally wrong (some also recognize the procreation of other sentient beings as morally wrong).
'''Antinatalism''' is the ethical view that negatively values coming into existence and procreation, and judges procreation as morally wrong. Antinatalists argue that humans should abstain from procreation because it is morally wrong (some also recognize the procreation of other sentient beings as morally wrong).


== [[File:Humanismpix.png]] {{PCB|Humanism|Philanthropic Argument}} ==
==[[File:Humanismpix.png]] [[Humanism|Philanthropic Argument]]==


The only certain way to protect your child is to not create it.
The only certain way to protect your child is to not create it.
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Because of that antinatalism is in favor of adoption, the only ethical way to become a parent. By adopting you can help improve the situation of an already existing being instead of creating a new being with the capability to suffer.
Because of that antinatalism is in favor of adoption, the only ethical way to become a parent. By adopting you can help improve the situation of an already existing being instead of creating a new being with the capability to suffer.


== [[File:Misanthropy.png]] [[Misanthropy|Misanthropic Argument]] ==
==[[File:Misanthropy.png]] [[mh:philosophyball:Misanthropy|Misanthropic Argument]]==


<blockquote>According to this argument, humans are a deeply flawed and destructive species that is responsible for the suffering and deaths of billions of other humans and non-human animals. If that level of destruction were caused by another species we would rapidly recommend that new members of that species not be brought into existence.<ref>[http://www.thecritique.com/articles/we-are-creatures-that-should-not-exist-the-theory-of-anti-natalism/ "We Are Creatures That Should Not Exist": The Theory of Anti-Natalism], ''The Critique''.</ref></blockquote>
<blockquote>According to this argument, humans are a deeply flawed and destructive species that is responsible for the suffering and deaths of billions of other humans and non-human animals. If that level of destruction were caused by another species we would rapidly recommend that new members of that species not be brought into existence.<ref>[http://www.thecritique.com/articles/we-are-creatures-that-should-not-exist-the-theory-of-anti-natalism/ "We Are Creatures That Should Not Exist": The Theory of Anti-Natalism], ''The Critique''.</ref></blockquote>


== Vegantinatalism ==
==Vegantinatalism==


<blockquote>Veganism and antinatalism are really one and the same—as they are both rooted in serious and practicable harm reduction for present and future life; looking out for others, wanting individuals to experience at least a minimally decent life, mitigating ecological destruction, respecting consent, and not bringing life into existence to suffer and die for the self-interest of oneself and others.</blockquote>
<blockquote>Veganism and antinatalism are really one and the same—as they are both rooted in serious and practicable harm reduction for present and future life; looking out for others, wanting individuals to experience at least a minimally decent life, mitigating ecological destruction, respecting consent, and not bringing life into existence to suffer and die for the self-interest of oneself and others.</blockquote>
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<blockquote>Antinatalists don’t want humans to be created just to experience and perpetuate needless suffering, destruction, and death. Vegans don’t want other animals to be forcibly bred into existence just to be inexcusably used against their will, dominated, objectified, and destroyed—all of which degrades our environment, exacerbates world hunger and climate destruction, creates pandemics, squanders precious resources, amplifies human-to-human violence, generally causes more human degradation and death than anything else, and much more.<ref>[https://www.stophavingkids.org/vegantinatalism Vegantinatalism: Veganism+Antinatalism], Stop Having Kids.</ref></blockquote>
<blockquote>Antinatalists don’t want humans to be created just to experience and perpetuate needless suffering, destruction, and death. Vegans don’t want other animals to be forcibly bred into existence just to be inexcusably used against their will, dominated, objectified, and destroyed—all of which degrades our environment, exacerbates world hunger and climate destruction, creates pandemics, squanders precious resources, amplifies human-to-human violence, generally causes more human degradation and death than anything else, and much more.<ref>[https://www.stophavingkids.org/vegantinatalism Vegantinatalism: Veganism+Antinatalism], Stop Having Kids.</ref></blockquote>


== Relationships ==
==Variants==
===Schools of Thought===
[[File:VHMent.png]] Voluntary Human Extinction is a movement that advocates the extinction of humanity through willingly restraining reproduction ([[File:Anti-Natalism.png]] [[Antinatalism]]) in an effort to make humanity extinct. Despite its goals, it rejects suicide, forced sterilization, or mass murder. They believe that humans have led to environmental degradation and therefore the entire human species must go extinct.


=== Friends ===
==Relationships==


=== Frenemies ===
===Friends===
TBA
*[[File:Humanismpix.png]] [[Humanism]] - Why bring more humans to the world if we can't even take care of the ones we already have.
*[[File:Radenv.png]] [[Radical Environmentalism]] - There are too many humans and we're destroying the environment.
*[[File:Polpot.png]] [[Pol Potism]] - Bashing babies heads to save them from suffering in the future. Yes absolutely do.
**[[File:NFPFC.png]] [[NFPFCism]] - My Greatest acheivement in China! You Reduced 400 million people's Carbon Emission! Better than Hong Taiji and Dorgon!
===Frenemies===
*[[File:Abort.png]] {{PCBA|Abortionism}} - Fetuses cannot consent to being aborted, but being born is bad as well. I'm divided on this issue...


=== Enemies ===
===Enemies===
*[[File:Natalism.png]] [[Pronatalism]] - Does human breeding make sense? I think no.
*[[File:ElonMusk.png]] [[Capitalist Transhumanism|Muskism]] - Multi-billionaire that only pushes for natalism cause hasn't ever experienced financial or emotional struggle because of his lucky upbringing. Most of the population isn't on the same situation.


== Further Information ==
==Further Information==
===Literature===
===Literature===
*[https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/566816/the-conspiracy-against-the-human-race-by-thomas-ligotti The Conspiracy Against the Human Race] by [[W:Thomas Ligotti|Thomas Ligotti]]
*[https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/566816/the-conspiracy-against-the-human-race-by-thomas-ligotti The Conspiracy Against the Human Race] by [[W:Thomas Ligotti|Thomas Ligotti]]
 
[[Category:Culturally Skullist]]
===Videos===
===Videos===
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvCgwZMDWhY Being Alive is Good, Actually] by [[File:Georgist.png]] [[Georgism|BritMonkey]]
*[https://youtu.be/ZUCenKvOzhI?t=72 Antinatalism | Is Life Worth Beginning?] with Cosmic Skeptic and Humane Hancock
*[https://youtu.be/ZUCenKvOzhI?t=72 Antinatalism | Is Life Worth Beginning?] with Cosmic Skeptic and Humane Hancock
*[https://youtu.be/6O5S2Y4FhJ0 Voluntary Extinction] by Solar Sands
*[https://youtu.be/6O5S2Y4FhJ0 Voluntary Extinction] by Solar Sands


=== Wikipedia ===
===Wikipedia===
*[[w:Antinatalism|Antinatalism]]
*[[w:Antinatalism|Antinatalism]]
==== People ====
====People====
*[[w:Al-Ma'arri|Al-Ma'arri]]
*[[w:Al-Ma'arri|Al-Ma'arri]]
*[[w:David_Benatar|David Benatar]]
*[[w:David_Benatar|David Benatar]]


=== Online Communities ===
===Online Communities===
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/ r/Antinatalism]
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/ r/Antinatalism]
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism2/ r/Antinatalism2]
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism2/ r/Antinatalism2]
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*[https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleAntinatalism/ r/FemaleAntinatalism]
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleAntinatalism/ r/FemaleAntinatalism]


== References ==
==References==
 
[[Category:Philosophies]]

Latest revision as of 19:13, 20 August 2024

Antinatalism is the ethical view that negatively values coming into existence and procreation, and judges procreation as morally wrong. Antinatalists argue that humans should abstain from procreation because it is morally wrong (some also recognize the procreation of other sentient beings as morally wrong).

Philanthropic Argument

The only certain way to protect your child is to not create it.

Antinatalism is not about hating children. Many antinatalists may have wanted to become parents but realized that there is no way to justify the risks involved. Even a child of the most well-intentioned and affluent parents can end up leading a horrible life or become a murderer.

You are not helping your child by creating it: No one has an interest in being born. No one is sad if they were not. Procreation is done entirely for the selfish reasons of the parents in their quest to give their life meaning, spread their DNA or have someone to take care of them in old age.

Because of that antinatalism is in favor of adoption, the only ethical way to become a parent. By adopting you can help improve the situation of an already existing being instead of creating a new being with the capability to suffer.

Misanthropic Argument

According to this argument, humans are a deeply flawed and destructive species that is responsible for the suffering and deaths of billions of other humans and non-human animals. If that level of destruction were caused by another species we would rapidly recommend that new members of that species not be brought into existence.[1]

Vegantinatalism

Veganism and antinatalism are really one and the same—as they are both rooted in serious and practicable harm reduction for present and future life; looking out for others, wanting individuals to experience at least a minimally decent life, mitigating ecological destruction, respecting consent, and not bringing life into existence to suffer and die for the self-interest of oneself and others.

Antinatalists don’t want humans to be created just to experience and perpetuate needless suffering, destruction, and death. Vegans don’t want other animals to be forcibly bred into existence just to be inexcusably used against their will, dominated, objectified, and destroyed—all of which degrades our environment, exacerbates world hunger and climate destruction, creates pandemics, squanders precious resources, amplifies human-to-human violence, generally causes more human degradation and death than anything else, and much more.[2]

Variants

Schools of Thought

Voluntary Human Extinction is a movement that advocates the extinction of humanity through willingly restraining reproduction ( Antinatalism) in an effort to make humanity extinct. Despite its goals, it rejects suicide, forced sterilization, or mass murder. They believe that humans have led to environmental degradation and therefore the entire human species must go extinct.

Relationships

Friends

  • Humanism - Why bring more humans to the world if we can't even take care of the ones we already have.
  • Radical Environmentalism - There are too many humans and we're destroying the environment.
  • Pol Potism - Bashing babies heads to save them from suffering in the future. Yes absolutely do.
    • File:NFPFC.png NFPFCism - My Greatest acheivement in China! You Reduced 400 million people's Carbon Emission! Better than Hong Taiji and Dorgon!

Frenemies

  • Abortionism - Fetuses cannot consent to being aborted, but being born is bad as well. I'm divided on this issue...

Enemies

  • Pronatalism - Does human breeding make sense? I think no.
  • Muskism - Multi-billionaire that only pushes for natalism cause hasn't ever experienced financial or emotional struggle because of his lucky upbringing. Most of the population isn't on the same situation.

Further Information

Literature

Videos

Wikipedia

People

Online Communities

References

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