Talk:World Federalism

A logistical nightmare.

 Pantheon - Have you ever heard about the subsidarity principle?
Have you ever heard about national-sovereignty and self-determination?

Page is terribly biased, especially for indigenous issues

This page was clearly biased to make this hyper-globalism look like it would protect the autonomy of all, and cites the UN as an example, but if you knew about anything about the UN you would know it is largely funded by the US and didn't do anything for native rights or land autonomy when it actually mattered. To ignore how UN laws actually work in practice is one example of ignoring the realities of such a system when done in practice. Especially when defending organizations like the UN.

Fuck the UN, literally the antichrist

this ideology is shit, both in practice and in theory, since it's clear that the UN has been used as a tool for major imperialist powers to thread on the self-determination and sovereignty of nations, and that a one world government would clearly enrage the people of those nations as they're forced to obey a power that disregards their very will. - Template:UserNuoh

 Pantheon - There can't be Imperialism if there's only one state left.

^Smartest Neo-colonialist argument, up there with "There can't be genocide if you already managed to genocide everyone else in the world beforehand."

Disagreed

 Pantheon

Well, you are wrong. Alt-globalism is the only truly based globalist ideology that genuinely cares for the well being of people across the world and helping to maintain their unique ways of life, the rest are neo-colonial lies trying to justify a one-world state.

Agreed! THIS IDEOLOGY IS LITERALLY ANTICHRIST!

I HATE ANTICHRIST I HATE ANTICHRIST I HATE ANTICHRIST

 Pantheon - Come and drink your Corn syrup already!

At least you are honest about it, will give you that

Cringe but it pisses off nationalists very well so it weirdly raps back around to being based

ditto above

 Pantheon - It isn't cringe.

Support imperialism and cultural genocide to own the nats!

 Pantheon - What?

Unironically yes

Template:DragonRed world federalism serves the neo-liberal pink capitalist system. shit system.

^ this take unironically, the UN is not only that, but also an imperialist puppet organization used by major powers to further their goals of hegemony - Template:UserDNY

 Pantheon - No it doesn't, Many of the most prominent World Federalists have been and still are Socialist.

^"Socialist". Also way to ignore all the neolibs and liberals apart of your movement. And also how the UN is very, very bad and imperialist as fuck.

Gigachad Ideology

 Pantheon - Global problems need global solutions, cope and seethe ultranationaloids.
^When you have to strawman anti-imperialists to be the 2-D ultranationalist racists in your head to justify and excuse enforcing your world-state to overtake the sovereignty of peoples across the world. Completely ignoring that you don't need a global state to promote cooperation and ignoring other forms of unity that don't need to enforce such an extreme system like alt-globalism.

Stop deflecting, if anyone if an ultranationalist it's you, since you are so dedicated to enforcing a world state where everyone must identify themselves with putting the nation (global nation) over all else at all costs including the cost to the national-sovereignty of others for some abstract idea of "unity".
TL:DR world federalists are basically just off-compass pan-ultranationalists with extra steps but deflects onto others who call them out on it. Template:UserMatteel - Honestly after listening to nationalists, I would start unironically supporting this just to piss them off