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--Magicpeartree (talk) 09:42, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Cool — ResponsibleCitizen (talk) 04:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
BASED
Matteel - Combining progressivist values with a welfare state is by far the most based thing ever on planet earth. Also don't feel like paying a million dollars for healthcare, if even taxes are raised the quality of services go up as well so the investment is well worth it.
Leninisbased556 social fascism can suck my ass welfare is a distraction to pacify the proletariat
Dear, Leninisbased 
Welfare Chauvinism, is the social fascist you are looking for.
- Template:UserCouncilguy - is a marxist-leninist and calls people fascists? you are either extremely stupid or blissfully ignorant. Heck, I don't even fully disagree with your last statement.
UserWiki:RedDragon social democracy mixed economy rule of law fair trade regulation welfare state is much better compared to classical liberalism.But I prefer socialism.
not as based as I once thought
Sure it's still leaning based more than not and that I share similar tenants with it(especially in economics), but a major problem with it is that it's too soft, not to mention that the adherents of modern social democracy are the left-wing economic assrapers of capital, recklessly implementing milquetoast economic reforms that not only plunge the economy near to the ground, but also preserve the very status of the ultra-wealthy's grip over society + how many of those modern social democrats have cultural liberal social policies, which is awful
though I have to admit, third world and classical social democrats are still pretty based, in which those people, like Eugene V. Debbs and Mohammed Mossadegh, aren't cucks and that they were truly willing to serve the people, but the problem of the ideology itself and it's tenants being too soft still remains, sadly, social democracy has fallen from grace - Template:UserDNY
• I second this. If they dropped the cultural liberalism and became tougher against the elites, I’d support it - Template:UserGeneralGanyu
Template:UserMatteel - I swear to god you lot are the most stupid larpers I've ever seen every single time I see you guys say something it's the most retarded bullshit every single time i've seen you guys say something it makes me want to tear my eyeballs out with out dumb it is
Hi Darknight and GeneralGanyu, I agree your points. I'll tolerate socdems who are nationalist, conservative, populist, demsoc, anti-elitist, anti-EU, and anti-NATO. Shame that many of SocDem’s adherents do nothing, but only serve the neolibtard elites and the wokes. Modern SocDems also support neoliberal organizations, such as EU, NATO, and more. That’s really cringe. I would think that modern SocDems are mostly in neoliberal denial because they always fall in neoliberal propaganda. Imagine supporting those neoliberal organizations while you’re leftist. But Socdems (such as Jacobo Arbenz, Mohammad Mossadegh, etc) were ousted by the neocucks/neolibtards. Economic of SocDem is good even I’m more socialistic than SocDem. - Template:UserChirotesla
- Template:UserMatteel - TFW your entire criticism of modern day social democracy is just blatantly wrong. And yes, critical support for both NATO and the EU
DragonRed
social democracy mixed economy rule of law fair trade regulation welfare state far better than classical liberalism.
I don't see social democracy as social fascist.