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Am m Refutes All Your Points

Revision as of 05:47, 12 October 2023 by Quark (talk | contribs)


Try to convince me of anything and I will try to refute your point, feel free to suggest categories in the comments. Also all alts are hereby banned.

Example

  • - I believe in x opinion.
    • - Why x opinion is bad.
      • - Ok

Economics

  • - Refute all of my Economic Policies
    • - Neoliberalism maximises suffering and decadence more than any other time or country in human history (except maybe Pol Pot Cambodia or Maoist China), therefore, it is an objectively terrible economic system
      • - Have you actually read my economic policies? i know that Neoliberalism isn't aways good, that's why i would use Essential regulations, Better Land management and Welfare to minimize it's bad effects while maintaning it's good parts.
        • - I haven't read your page in a while and when you just link Third Way as your economic system it's not very helpful for criticism. Anyway, even in capitalist countries with all these regulations, such as Canada, there is still massive wealth inequality and hedonism, so these regulations don't help
  • - Capitalism and Leftism is bad only distributism counts
    • - I agree with you, but I have to refute your point, so: Distributism hasn't been properly tried, only theorised, so it's unknown if it's a good system

State

  • - The government should be run by those who smell the worst
    • - Smelling bad is bad therefore they should not run the government
  • Venatrixism - my gay uncle, Benjamin Hood should lead the entire world under a one world am m government
    • - He would get inevitably couped and replaced with a shit world leader, therefore this would be bad

Nation

  • - ultranationalism is necessary for a nation to survive
    • - Most modern Western countries survive though they aren't ultranationalist, they have lost their culture but they are still surviving as nations
  • - Arguments against my Policy involving Diplomacy, Immigration and the Nation as whole ?
    • - Intervention is a shit idea which has only led to countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya becoming much, much worse, as well as funding opposition in countries such as Syria. Civic nationalism makes no sense (e.g. a mouse born in a stable isn't a horse, and besides immigrants have no connection with the land they come to, unlike people who stay in their countries of origin). Also the Levant doesn't belong to a religion but to the Levantese people, so Zionism is bad.

Social

  • SkeletonJanitor - Pederasty is literally ok and should be widely accepted by modern day ethics, since it's not pedophilia
  • - chud rights are human rights
    • - Human rights are not implicit within even any religion or atheist beliefs therefore they don’t exist therefore nothing can be human rights
      • - All humans (whites) are children of God and as such should be treated with grace and dignity also, chud power!!!!!!
        • - Grace and dignity aren’t human rights
  •  Comrade Phil Thought - Progressivism is bourgeois and capitalist. I mean look at companies during pride month (and in recent years, year round). Social progressivism is capitalism decaying.
    • - I agree with you, but I have to refute your point so: Wannabe communist countries such as Maoist China were revprog, so progressivism isn't inherently capitalistic.
      • Borker >Communists
        >Mao
        lol
        • - Dengism isn't Maoism, Mao actually implemented some communist policies such as collective meals, ofc he wasn't perfectly communist but closer than most and that was his goal
          • Borker He wasn’t really ever a communist, the 1954 Chinese Constitution explicitly protects private property and ownership over the means of production.
            • - I was unaware of that. In that case I'll change my answer slightly
  • - Gives an argument against my Philosophy
    • - Hedonism inevitably leads to the mental destruction of a person, in particular, porn and casual sex and psychologically addictive and ruin sex for people, also eugenicism ruins beautiful things such as autism, also none of your ideology whatsoever is Christian, unlike what it says, and deism isn't Christianity
      • - But i acknowledge this, and so, i advocates for making the treatment of these addictions free of charge and provided by the government, as in my opinion, banning these things only increase the number of addicts rather than the reverse. and my Eugenic policy is mostly based on making the Brazilian population more intelligent, and people of Autism are not necessarily dumb, there are a plenty of autists that are actually smart. and even thought i acknowledge that i'm just a Deist who prefers Christianity rather than other religion, i still believes that Jesus is the son of God, so to speak.
        • - 1. You're openly a porn addict, so you should stop 2. I wouldn't call that eugenics per se as eugenics has negative connotations 3. Why not follow the word of Christ then, especially if He is the Son of God
          • - 1. i'm trying to stop being a porn addict, i'm planning to only watch porn 1-2 times per week. 2. I believe that there should be a limit of children dumber persons should have, thus making me an eugenicist. 3. My religion is kinda complex. i think that until the Old Testement, God had absolute power, but he decreased it's power to only judge people after the dead, while giving karma to the people at the life. so pratically, it's a mix of Christianity, Deism and Agnosticism.
  • - I think racism is bad and everyone deserves respect
    • - I agree with you, but I have to refute your point, so: Gypsies

Technology

Philosophical

  • - god never existed
    • - I’d say this would go more in “Religious” but whatever. Everything must come from something, which leads to the natural conclusion that there is an infinitely powerful force which everything came from - a god
      • - god is a philosophical concept, it has no particular link with religion. Religion is a branch of ideology, just like morality is a branch of desires. Any definition which makes religion transcendent/apart from ideology is likely theistic/liberal cope. And god never existed
        • - The idea of a god(s) or other forces beyond humans is literally the basis of religion

Religious

  • - Jews le bad
    • - I have met Jews in real life and they are not le bad
      • - But but Jews control world governments n sheet
        • - There are two Jew world leaders out of 212 (including unrecognised countries) as far as I know, which is 0.94% of world governments
  • - Perennialism is true
    • - If multiple religions claim to be the singular correct religion, then they can't all be correct, by definition

Other

  •  Comrade Phil Thought - If America can invade Iraq twice for no reason, and Israel occupy Palestine, then Russia is completely right and justified to perform a special military operation in Ukraine.
    • - I agree with you but I have to refute your point, so: Wars doesn't justify other wars, the pretext for war can't be another war but a valid and legitimate reason, besides Ukraine isn't the USA even though they are allies (also put this in National next time)