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The first quote is Stirner, so it is not my work - that is why the whole section is in ' - '. "I prefer to be happy and do good things." - So you do, in fact, prefer things that interest you, that provide you with life's 'self-enjoyment'. It is a question of whether you did good things whether they made you happy or not- that is the point of morality. You are not overturning my position, but ultimately siding with it.

"People like you annoy me for you think you are God. You're not." I have never claimed this; I merely, like you, provided arguments that I agree with.

"this is what I mean by your argument is 'just cuz'. You merely put words referring to the individual who is a moralist in a position in the sentence that has a negative connotation." - Again the quote is Stirner's. Surprisingly, the words that Stirner uses are positive - Enthusiastic, filled - I mean it is simply the case that the opposition to the egoist is the slave for Stirner, not the social, altruistic, helpful, honest, etc., person - but rather a figure who is possessed by ideas.

"Morality is not the hierarchy of thoughts. There are other moral frameworks than deontology. Universality has no relation to the realm of thought as proper classes are objects that exist beyond the human mind's production of them in culture." The hierarchy of thoughts has nothing to do with deontology, except, of course, that all morality has rules; even consequentialism turns into 'do good, or do stuff so that it is ultimately good'; that is its principle.

Nevertheless, it is not about universality, case in point the issue of the 99; it is much rather whether the individual has internalised the external judgement as something that cannot be crossed, or argued against. Simply because if you did, you would be a horror in your own eyes, because you are moral, you shudder at the thought of someone not being moral.

It is a pronouncement of holy vs. sinner - I, for one, do not believe in Christianity, and so I don't find myself a sinner when I am gay; however, if I was filled with Christian morality, then I would. Much the same as the secular moral person who derides others as inhuman as "sinners" against their morality. I, for one, choose things that make me happy, and I don't deride others for being immoral; they simply displease me and my "life," not my theory of morals.

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