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<blockquote>''Not to be confused with [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]].''</blockquote>
<blockquote>''Not to be confused with [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]]''</blockquote>
{{Ideology
{{Ideology
|title=[[File:Menslib.png]] Men's Liberation
|title=[[File:Menslib.png]] Men's Liberation [[File:Menslibnoears.png]]
|aliases=Menslib<br>
|aliases={{Collapse|Menslib<br>
Soycuck (according to [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]])
[[File:Bropill.png]] Bropill<br>Literally [[File:Gigachad.png]] Gigachad<br>
|influences=[[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]]
[[File:Soyjak.png]] Soycuck/Fake MRA (by [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]])<br>
|likes=Pro-male activism <br> Anti-Sexist Action
Men With Daddy Issue/Fatherless Weirdo (by [[File:Altl.png]] [[Alt-Lite]])<br>
|dislikes=Manosphere type MRAs <br> Anti-Male Feminists
[[File:NymN.png]] Soyboy (according to [[File:Altr.png]] [[Alt-Right]])<br>
|image=<gallery>
[[File:Femboy.png]] Femboy (some)<br>
menslibears.png|With ears
[[File:CatBoy.png]] Catboy(Sometimes)<br>
menlib.png|Earless
[[File:Femboy.png]] Non-Masculine Manosphere (by [[File:Esofash.png]] [[Esoteric Fascism]])<br>
</gallery>|influenced=[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]]|alignments=[[File:nonquadrant.png]] [[:Category:NonQuad|NonQuad]]
Positive Masculinity (by [[File:Reddit.png]] Redditors)<br>
[[File:Prgss.png]] [[:Category:Culturally left|Culturally left]]}}
Misguided pro-gender males (by [[File:Post-Genderism.png]] [[Postgenderism]])<br>
Men's liberation is a movement focused on the restraints that modern society puts on men, particularly their ability to openly express their feelings and emotions, and to undertake in traditionally not "manly" tasks. They are often supportive of feminist movements although they tend to be somewhat conflicted on their self-identity. Usually identify as "anti-sexist" but can sometimes call themselves feminist depending on the context.  
[[File:Altl-hijack-menslib.png]] MRA-Lite (Accused by [[File:Radfem.png]] [[Radical Feminism]])
}}
|influences=[[File:AntiSexism.png]] Anti-Sexism<br>
[[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]]<br>
[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]]<br>
|influenced={{Collapse|
[[File:Braincels.png]] [[Manosphere#Braincels|Braincels]] (partially)<br>
[[File:Femboycon.png]] [[Homoconservatism#Femboy Conservatism|Femboy Conservatism]]<br>
[[File:Hfash.png]] [[Homofascism]] (some)<br>
[[File:Homonaticon.png]] {{PCBA|Homonationalism}} (some)<br>
[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]] (some)<br>
[[File:Yang2020.png]] [[Social Libertarianism|Yangism]]
}}
|theorists=[[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Americas''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Tribal.png]] [[Tribalism|Robert Bly]] (1926-2021) (Mythopoetic Men's Movement) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
*[[File:Map.png]] [[Feminism|Warren Farrell]] (1943-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA (formerly, before the 80's)
*[[File:Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism.png]] [[Radical Feminism|Norah Vincent]] (1968-2022) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
*[[File:Incel.png]] [[Liberalism|Jack Richard Peterson]] (???-), [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
}}
[[File:Cball-Commonwealth.png]] '''Commonwealth Realm''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:David_bowie.png]] [[Humanism|David Bowie]] (1947-2016) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
}}
[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Altl-hijack-menslib.png]] [[Alt-Lite|Experto en Igualdad]] (¿-) [[File:Cball-Spain.png]] Spain
}}
|examples=[[File:Tribal.png]] [[Tribalism|The Mythopoetic Men's Movement]] (debatably)
|likes=Pro-male activism<br>
[[File:AntiSexism.png]] Anti-Sexist action<br>
Gender equality<br>
[[File:Male-icon.png]] Positive masculinity
|dislikes=[[File:Mansphere.png]] Manosphere type MRAs<br>
[[File:Man-Hating Feminism.png]] Anti-Male feminists<br>
Blanket statements applied to all men<br>
Toxic masculinity<br>
[[File:Altl-hijack-menslib.png]] [[Alt-Lite|Hijackers]]
|image=<gallery>Menslibears.png|With Ears
Menlib.png|Earless
</gallery>
|alignments=[[File:nonquadrant.png]] [[:Category:Non-Quadrant|NonQuad]]<br>
[[File:Prgess.png]] [[:Category:Culturally Left|Culturally Left]]<br>
[[File:Male-icon.png]] [[Masculism (Disambiguation)|Masculism]] gang<br>
[[File:Fem.png]] [[:Category:Feminists|Feminists]] (some)<br>
[[File:Gay.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|LGBT]] (some)<br>
|song=[https://youtu.be/9GkVhgIeGJQ Boys Don't Cry]<br>
[https://youtu.be/3ngpsBSdObE Can You Feel My Heart]<br>
[https://youtu.be/SgHQKaT0ZB4 Can You Feel My Heart, but slowed and pitched down 0.75x]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ziqtyseR3M Everytime We Touch (Remix) ✕]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SiiRx7GDzI 2019 Guy]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcAp4nmTZCA Be Nice To Me]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF8TE1fowUU Your little devil apocalypse (sung by Iruma and Lied)]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5IpWXWub0 Joji - Pretty Boy]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyFI-jpDkQA Shingo Mama no Oha-Rock]
|themecolor=#154F8F
|textcolor=#00B55A
}}
'''Men's Liberation''' is a movement focused on the restraints that modern society puts on men, particularly their ability to openly express their feelings and emotions, and to undertake traditionally not "manly" tasks. They are generally supportive of feminist movements but they may not get along all of the time. Can either identify as "anti-sexist" or feminist depending on the context.  


== Personality ==
==History==
Depending on how he is writen, he might have some problems with women, (as he finds many women to also be sexist) but unlike manosphere is actually a geniunely kind person to most people and tries to treat all people equally, still most women (and feminist balls) find him creepy and other men (especially [[File:Mansphere.png]] manosphere) call him a cuck or soyboy. He wants to be friends with feminism but feminism is afraid of him due to him being male and advocating for male rights. 
(WIP)
==Beliefs==


Regardless, he argues that manliness should not be defined by traditional perceptions of the term and acts how he want's whether it be considered traditionally masculine or otherwise. Sometimes acts like a femboy. But is still proud of his masculinity. He also lifts, not because he wants to impress anyone but for his own betterment. Known to call his friends "King" or "lad".
MensLib advocates share the same conceptual bases as Feminist theory, from which it essentially originates, seeing patriarchy as a key social structure in understanding the attribution of gender roles and relationships between genders in society, namely the mechanisms and structures perpetuating gendered oppression and men's domination over women. They use similar theoretical corpus and methods applied to the question of men's issues, such as rapes and sexual assaults performed on males (mostly by other males), deconstruction of traditional masculinity and criticism of beauty and behavioral standards it forces onto men.
== How to Draw ==
 
{{Flag|Menslib_flag.svg}}
They generally speaking identify as Feminists or Pro-Feminists, most of the time supporting the movement as such. Some Feminists however look at this with a wary eye, as they may see the emphasize on specific men's issues borne out of patriarchal structures, while consensually agreed upon in the movement, as much more secondary compared to the extent of women's oppression, and as deviating the focus of the movement.  
 
MensLib advocates understand how men's issues often intersect with race, sexual orientation and identity, disability, socioeconomic status and other axes of identity.
 
==Personality==
Unlike [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]], he is portrayed as being actually a genuinely kind person to people and tries to treat everybody equally. Still, some feminists don't trust him completely and other men (especially [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]]) call him a cuck or soyboy. He wants to be friends with [[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]] but she is a bit skeptical of him due to his advocacy for men's rights, even if he ends up siding with her on most issues.
 
==How to Draw==
{{Flag|Menslib_flag.svg}}  
#Draw a ball with ears
#Draw a ball with ears
#Color it blue
#Color it blue
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#Add eyes
#Add eyes


== Relations ==
{{Flag-auto
===Friends ===
  |c1= Blue|h1=#3960A0
*[[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]] - Although we argue over a lot, you are still an ally in overcoming toxic masculinity. (Just please tolerate me more)
  |c2= Green|h2=#5E9C52
*[[File: Pacfem-1.png]] [[Pacifist Feminism]] - I like the way how she uphold gender equality.
}}
 
==Relations==
===Friends===
 
*[[File:Long.png]] [[Longism]] - Ah yes, ALL MEN ARE KINGS!
*[[File:Long.png]] [[Longism]] - Ah yes, ALL MEN ARE KINGS!
*[[File:Gay.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|Gay Men]] & [[File:Trans.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|Trans Men]] - KINGS!!
*[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]] - I agree with you that gender stereotypes harm both women and men and that we should work towards gender equality. Even if we may not exactly agree on the nature of the [[File:Pat.png]] Patriarchy, I still see you as an ally.
*[[File:Civlibert.png]] [[Civil Libertarianism]] - Expansive civil liberties? Gender equality? LGBT rights? Yeah, this is it, based!
===Frenemies===
*[[File:Libfem.png]] [[Liberal Feminism]] - Yes, both women and men should be free! But NGL, "The future is female" sounds pretty cringe.
*[[File:Libertfem.png]] [[Libertarian Feminism]] - While I support sex workers of all types and genders, Feminism should be about pointing out the systemic injustices of society and correcting them on a systemic & societal level, including in sex work! How do you expect to do that within a pure individualist framework of Libertarianism?  I don't hate you and I definitely don't hate your job, but I just think you're missing the point.
*[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]] - You could've been an ally, and we once worked together in the past, but you're just incredibly misguided. If you want people to care more about our issues, you need to drop the fervent misogyny, as well as the other discriminatory views a lot of your factions hold. <small>''<s>And stop calling me a soyboy!</s>''</small>'' If you want men's empowerment, you need to respect feminism as a legitimately positive movement and not the devilish misandrist cult you portray it to be. Because the feminists, for all of their flaws, are our sisters in the struggle to build a better future for all.
**[[File:Mansphere.png]] - Silly <s>soy</s>boy, you that thinks feminists will accept you? If you don't believe me, just look at those femoid echo chambers like Ovarit or Mumsnet and be surprised how they hate you at all costs.
*[[File:Post-Genderism.png]] [[Postgenderism]] - I honestly don't dislike you that much and don't mind the transhumanist influence, but you should really try to put yourself in a trans person's or anyone else that lacks the gendered affirmation they want shoes before saying that we should abolish gender/abolish gender roles. Have you ever thought that some people actually like being seen as their gender?
*[[File:Hfash.png]] [[Homofascism#Homofascism|Homofascism]] - You like femboys and twinks because they're "cute little gay bois", I like femboys because they are non-conforming to gender roles. Also, you're just a nutcase, especially toward women.
*[[File:Hcon.png]] [[Homoconservatism]] - A varyingly less bigoted version of the guy above. Some of you honestly aren't that bad, but your "Drop the T" faction is just transphobic bullshit.
===Enemies===
*[[File:Strato.png]] [[Stratocracy|The Military]] - Male-only conscription is unfair, and is based on male dispersibility as well as fragile masculinity! Why should men and ONLY men be seen as their duty to die in wars for the nation? While fighting for what you believe in can be very much justified if not commendable, obsessing over it as what men should unquestionably identify themselves with is a toxic mentality that only hurts men.
*[[File:Altr.png]] [[Alt-Right]] - So, you think men being used as cannon fodder is empowering? Oh, and you're just insane by the way. I will pass...
*[[File:Altl.png]] [[Alt-Lite]] - No, toxic masculinity isn't a man-hating phrase. Now stop trying to hijack my movement, you closet bigot!
*[[File:Radfem.png]] [[Radical Feminism]] & [[File:Nazfem.png]] [[National Feminism]] - ''sigh'' I am done with negotiating; I am not gonna bother with a narrow-minded ultrabigot like you anymore. <s>Tbh you deserve what [[File:Avar.png|frameless]] [[File:Anfashf.png|frameless]] [[File:Homofash.png|frameless]] [[File:Mansphere.png|frameless]] they did to you  lol.</s> And your comments, postings, and "guidelines" on FDS are literally cringe femcel dogshit.
**[[File:Radfem.png]] - I repeat again - It doesn't matter how men are feminine or masculine because ALL of them are rapists and violent beasts. You can wear dresses and don't follow gender roles, but for the last time - '''STAY AWAY''' from women, you misogynistic biological oppressors! <s>At least you're better than those trannies.</s>
*[[File:Mat-0.png]] [[Matriarchy]] - Empowering females for the sake of empowering is bad. Also, pre-designed rules for both genders ain't sound right.
*[[File:Anarcho-Fascismalt.png]] [[Anarcho-Fascism|Nilssonian Anarcho-Fascism]] - Bigot, misogynistic, violent, racist, xenophobic, reactionary, etc... seriously this guy is crazy AF. The manosphere ain't sending its best.
*[[File:Jackanfash.png]] [[Anarcho-Fascism|Donnovanian Anarcho-Fascism]] - His Libleft and esoteric brother, he's even more violent and savage. Also, why don't you accept that you are homosexual?
*[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]] - Hey! How a man wants to dress is his own business! Stop permaban me you totalitarian fuck!
*[[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]] - While in many ways you might be weaker than ever thanks to [[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]], your supporters are still powerful, your victims are still numerous, and your gender roles still SUCK!
*[[File:Plcn2.png]] [[Paleoconservatism]] - You're the BIGGEST BIGOT I've ever encountered. Not only do you hate my [[File:Fem.png]] friend just because she wants rights over herself, you want men to be restricted to their "traditional" roles of the patriarchy. You actively want to punish us if we are even a little bit feminine/non-masculine. You also hate the LGBT as well, which is surprising since many of you, especially people like [[File:Fuente.png]] HIM, secretly are gay themselves. Go die in a ditch, you bigot scumbag.
*[[File:Krater.png]] [[Kraterocracy]] - What the FUCK? How... What... I didn't have even words to describe, how I hate you!
*[[File:Avar.png]] [[Avaritionism]] - Oh fuck. You like [[File:Anarcho-Fascismalt.png]] him and [[File:Krater.png]] him? You are the worst!
**[[File:Avar.png]] - And what do you expect? Your or strong (what are you don't want to be), or you dead/slave. State of nature, my friend.


=== Frenemies ===
==Further Reading==


* [[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]] - I don't even disagree with you in principle, but you're just '''really''' '''<big>really</big>''' sexist and racist. And stop calling me a soyboy.
* [[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]] - I mean I am not sure if this really exists even, at least not for the average male in a [[Neoliberalism|Neoliberal]] Western Nation. Still screw your gender stereotypes!
*[[File:Libfem.png]] [[Liberal Feminism]] - Yes, both women and men should be free! But NGL, "The future is female" sounds pretty cringe.


=== Enemies ===
===Wikipedia===
 
*[[w:Men's liberation movement|Men's liberation movement]]
*[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fathers%27_rights_movement Father's rights movement]
*[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stay-at-home_dad Stay-at-home dad]
===YouTube===
*[https://youtu.be/5P9_fSJi5rU Experto en Igualdad] (Spanish only)
 
* [https://youtube.com/c/MacabreStorytelling Macabre Storytelling] (sometimes)
 
===Literature===
 
* [https://www.brookings.edu/book/of-boys-and-men/ Of Boys and Men - ''Why the modern male is struggling, Why it matters and What to do about it''] by Richard V. Reeves [[File:Soclib.png]]
* [https://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Year-Disguised/dp/0143038702  ''Self Made Man''] by Norah Vincent [[File:Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism.png]]
===Online communities===


*[[File:Altr.png]] [[Alt-Right]] - So, you think men being used as cannon fodder is empowering? I will pass...
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/ r/MensLib]
*[[File:Radfem.png]] [[Radical Feminism]] - Legit you just hate men. Women are not the only victims you know... Also why can't I act feminine? I will act how I want. And your comments, postings and "guidelines" on FDS are literally oppressing men and cringe.
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/bropill/ r/bropill]
*[[File:National Feminism.png]] [[National Feminism]] - My arch nemesis-- a literal Feminazi!
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/bigdickproblems/ r/bigdickproblems]
*[[File:Mat-0.png]] [[Matriarchy]] - Empowering females for the sake of empowering is bad. Also, pre-designed rules for both genders ain't sound right.
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/feminineboys/ r/feminineboys] (Factions)


== Further Reading ==
==Navigation==
*[[wp:Men's liberation movement|Men's liberation movement]]
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Latest revision as of 14:52, 27 May 2024

Not to be confused with Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Manosphere.

Men's Liberation is a movement focused on the restraints that modern society puts on men, particularly their ability to openly express their feelings and emotions, and to undertake traditionally not "manly" tasks. They are generally supportive of feminist movements but they may not get along all of the time. Can either identify as "anti-sexist" or feminist depending on the context.

History

(WIP)

Beliefs

MensLib advocates share the same conceptual bases as Feminist theory, from which it essentially originates, seeing patriarchy as a key social structure in understanding the attribution of gender roles and relationships between genders in society, namely the mechanisms and structures perpetuating gendered oppression and men's domination over women. They use similar theoretical corpus and methods applied to the question of men's issues, such as rapes and sexual assaults performed on males (mostly by other males), deconstruction of traditional masculinity and criticism of beauty and behavioral standards it forces onto men.

They generally speaking identify as Feminists or Pro-Feminists, most of the time supporting the movement as such. Some Feminists however look at this with a wary eye, as they may see the emphasize on specific men's issues borne out of patriarchal structures, while consensually agreed upon in the movement, as much more secondary compared to the extent of women's oppression, and as deviating the focus of the movement.

MensLib advocates understand how men's issues often intersect with race, sexual orientation and identity, disability, socioeconomic status and other axes of identity.

Personality

Unlike Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Manosphere, he is portrayed as being actually a genuinely kind person to people and tries to treat everybody equally. Still, some feminists don't trust him completely and other men (especially Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Manosphere) call him a cuck or soyboy. He wants to be friends with Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Feminism but she is a bit skeptical of him due to his advocacy for men's rights, even if he ends up siding with her on most issues.

How to Draw

Flag of Men's Liberation
  1. Draw a ball with ears
  2. Color it blue
  3. Add some spots
  4. Add eyes
Color Name HEX RGB
Blue #3960A0 57, 96, 160
Green #5E9C52 94, 156, 82


Relations

Friends

Frenemies

Enemies

Further Reading

Wikipedia

YouTube

Literature

Online communities

Navigation

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