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{{Comment|{{UserNyteulo}}|Despite his faults, China before Mao was far worse then anything experienced during the CPC’s rule. China was notorious for famines long before Mao, and it’s irrational to blame any peasant who died in China on him. China was an economically and materially backwards country for centuries, Mao had little to work with. That being said, several of Mao’s strategies proved to be failures and the leadership of the party had many alternatives. Mao’s greatest achievements where those of uniting the people, of the revolution and pf the defeating of the ROC, however once he was not a master economic planner, and some of the blame is to be attributed to him, but not “70,000,000” as conservatives will tell you. After Deng Xiaoping took leadership, he claimed Mao’s policies resulted in no more 15 million, in an attempt to attack the Maoist crevices of the party. In summary, I would rate Maoism (at least this version) with a 6/10.}} | {{Comment|{{UserNyteulo}}|Despite his faults, China before Mao was far worse then anything experienced during the CPC’s rule. China was notorious for famines long before Mao, and it’s irrational to blame any peasant who died in China on him. China was an economically and materially backwards country for centuries, Mao had little to work with. That being said, several of Mao’s strategies proved to be failures and the leadership of the party had many alternatives. Mao’s greatest achievements where those of uniting the people, of the revolution and pf the defeating of the ROC, however once he was not a master economic planner, and some of the blame is to be attributed to him, but not “70,000,000” as conservatives will tell you. After Deng Xiaoping took leadership, he claimed Mao’s policies resulted in no more 15 million, in an attempt to attack the Maoist crevices of the party. In summary, I would rate Maoism (at least this version) with a 6/10.}} | ||
[[File:PATS.png]] ChineseSocialist: Tbh I agree with what you said. He has made some grave and very severe mistakes, however, it's unfair to condemn him as being "literally le ebil communist totalitarian satan" considering how Chiang and the Japs razed down China and basically destroyed whatever China had along with the warlords. Other than Sun Yat Sen, I do agree pre-Mao China is horrible. Without Mao, China wouldn't have been able to stand up against centuries of Imperialist domination and wouldn't have been able to progress into the technological anti-atlanticist fortress it is today. | |||
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ChineseSocialist: Judging by the material conditions of China of his time, having a strong hand to build up his country is necessary and in his early days, he was a great man, but after the GLF and the Cultural Revolution, what can one say, really?
^ my take on it as well though totalitarianism is a bit much even for such situations
ChineseSocialist: Tbh I agree with what you said. He has made some grave and very severe mistakes, however, it's unfair to condemn him as being "literally le ebil communist totalitarian satan" considering how Chiang and the Japs razed down China and basically destroyed whatever China had along with the warlords. Other than Sun Yat Sen, I do agree pre-Mao China is horrible. Without Mao, China wouldn't have been able to stand up against centuries of Imperialist domination and wouldn't have been able to progress into the technological anti-atlanticist fortress it is today.