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Hello, I have left FPCB<br>
{{WIP|Marivistu}}


'''{{Quote|quote="I am a fighter not a quitter!"|speaker=[[File:Honk.png]] Liz Truss}}'''<br><br>
I decided to move my page back on here as well as PCBA.<br>
'''{{Quote|quote="I am resigning..."|speaker=[[File:Honk.png]] Liz Truss}}'''
I will update it occasionally.


(maybe I will still make larps occassionally since they won't be censored like on fpcba kek)
{{ideology
|name= {{Vistulism}}
|image=
|alignments=
{{Info/LibLefts}}<br>
{{Info/Anarchists}} (end goal)<br>
[[File:Marketsoc.png]] {{NormalLink|:Category:Market_Socialists|'''Market Socialists'''}}<br>
{{Info/CultLefts}}<br>
'''Dozen Values''' {{Collapse|
{{DvIdeology/small|Vistulism|72.2|50.0|32.6|62.5|79.9|35.4}}
}}<br>
|caption=When dreams of a new reality inspire realities from those old dreams, we are victorious.
|influences=
<tabber>
|-|Economy=
'''People''' {{Collapse|
[[File:Cooperative_Socialism.png]] David Schweickart<br>
 
}}<br>
'''Ideas''' {{Collapse|
[[File:Cooperative_Socialism.png]] {{PCB|Market Socialism|Illyrian Socialism}}<br>
[[File:Tax-Prog.png]] {{PCB|Socialism|Progressive Taxation}}<br>
[[File:AntiAusterity.png]] {{PCB|Socialism|Anti-Austerity}}
}}
|-|Diplomacy=
[[File:AntiAtlantic.png]] {{PCB|Anti-Atlanticism}}
</tabber>
|likes=
[[File:Cooperative_Socialism.png]] Cooperatives
|dislikes=
[[File:SocAbove.png]] Socialism from above<br>
 
}}
 
 
 
{{Vistulism}} is a libertarian left, market socialist ideology created by {{NormalLink|User:Marivistu|'''Marivistu'''}}. It believes in a transition from a traditional [[File:Cap.png]] hierarchical market economy to a [[File:Cooperative_Socialism.png]] cooperative market economy. Being in the libertarian left quadrant of the <s>completely inaccurate</s> political compass, it rejects the idea of [[File:SocAbove.png]] "socialism from above" leading to a dislike of authoritarian currents within the left such as [[File:Statesoc.png]] state socialists, [[File:Mao.png]] maoists and [[File:Anti-Revisionism.png]] anti-revisionists.
 
==The Final Stage==
The final stage is where the state is no longer needed, when worker cooperatives are everywhere and act independently.
 
==Economic Democracy==
Economic democracy is a term coined by [[File:Cooperative_Socialism.png]] David Schweickart.
 
==Employee Buyouts==
I think that employee buyouts are a good way of transitioning from our current system of market economy to one dominated by worker cooperatives.
 
==Alternative to Worker Cooperatives==
I believe cooperative business is the best type of business but there are of course a few exceptions, like in everything.<br>
[[File:Markets.png]] '''Democratically-elected Workplaces''' {{Collapse|
You can consider the difference between a democratically-elected workplace and a worker cooperative to be similar to the difference between representative and direct democracy. Both have the people holding some level of power. In democratically-elected workplaces, the owner is elected by the electorate rather than owning the workplace through (((inheritance))).
}}<br>
[[File:Nonprofit.png]] '''Charity traditional businesses''' {{Collapse|
A hierarchical form for charities seems okay to me, they don't want to accomplish personal monetary gain so I don't believe they should be "cooperativised" as there wouldn't even be any profit to share out between workers in the first place and collective  decision making may not benefit their charitable goals. Charities are great things (of course [[File:Welf.png]] welfare is obviously better, but charities are still great.) and so we shouldn't force things upon them as it'd be pretty immoral.
}}

Revision as of 16:46, 18 December 2023

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I decided to move my page back on here as well as PCBA.
I will update it occasionally.



Vistulism is a libertarian left, market socialist ideology created by Marivistu. It believes in a transition from a traditional hierarchical market economy to a cooperative market economy. Being in the libertarian left quadrant of the completely inaccurate political compass, it rejects the idea of "socialism from above" leading to a dislike of authoritarian currents within the left such as state socialists, maoists and anti-revisionists.

The Final Stage

The final stage is where the state is no longer needed, when worker cooperatives are everywhere and act independently.

Economic Democracy

Economic democracy is a term coined by David Schweickart.

Employee Buyouts

I think that employee buyouts are a good way of transitioning from our current system of market economy to one dominated by worker cooperatives.

Alternative to Worker Cooperatives

I believe cooperative business is the best type of business but there are of course a few exceptions, like in everything.

Democratically-elected Workplaces

You can consider the difference between a democratically-elected workplace and a worker cooperative to be similar to the difference between representative and direct democracy. Both have the people holding some level of power. In democratically-elected workplaces, the owner is elected by the electorate rather than owning the workplace through (((inheritance))).


Charity traditional businesses

A hierarchical form for charities seems okay to me, they don't want to accomplish personal monetary gain so I don't believe they should be "cooperativised" as there wouldn't even be any profit to share out between workers in the first place and collective decision making may not benefit their charitable goals. Charities are great things (of course welfare is obviously better, but charities are still great.) and so we shouldn't force things upon them as it'd be pretty immoral.

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