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* [[File:Kautsky.png]] '''{{colorlink|#e50000|Classical Social Democracy#Centre|Centrist Marxism}}''' - You're bad. Very bad. But somehow I can't place you in 'Lumpenproletariat'.  
* [[File:Kautsky.png]] '''{{colorlink|#e50000|Classical Social Democracy#Centre|Centrist Marxism}}''' - You're bad. Very bad. But somehow I can't place you in 'Lumpenproletariat'.  
* [[File:Egocom.png]] '''{{colorlink|#008080|Ego-Communism}}''' - You're fine. I'm not opposed to your egoism; I believe that communism is as egoistic as it is selfless, but I do not approve of the anarchism whatsoever or the belief that communism is opposed to egoism when it as a matter of fact is among the most egoistic idea aside from most obviously egoism itself.
=== lumpenproletariat ===
=== lumpenproletariat ===
* [[File:ML.png]] '''{{colorlink|#c90101|Marxism-Leninism}}''' - Marxism-Leninism has been, without a doubt, the most damaging thing to the proletarian movement in ''all'' of its history. Even more than social democracy- even more than Bernstein... just straight up worse than socdems.
* [[File:ML.png]] '''{{colorlink|#c90101|Marxism-Leninism}}''' - Marxism-Leninism has been, without a doubt, the most damaging thing to the proletarian movement in ''all'' of its history. Even more than social democracy- even more than Bernstein... just straight up worse than socdems.
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* [[File:Bernst.png]] '''{{colorlink|#e10600|Reformist Marxism|Bernsteinism}}''' - I take my comment back. You still suck. You are still absolutely ''horrible'', but I don't think you fucked up as badly as ^ he did.
* [[File:Bernst.png]] '''{{colorlink|#e10600|Reformist Marxism|Bernsteinism}}''' - I take my comment back. You still suck. You are still absolutely ''horrible'', but I don't think you fucked up as badly as ^ he did.
** [[File:Succdem.png]] '''{{colorlink|#cc0000|Social Democracy}}''' - Abandoned historical and dialectical materialism in favor of sucking up to capitalism and trying to 'fix it', as if though it isn't functioning as intended.
** [[File:Succdem.png]] '''{{colorlink|#cc0000|Social Democracy}}''' - Abandoned historical and dialectical materialism in favor of sucking up to capitalism and trying to 'fix it', as if though it isn't functioning as intended.
** [[File:Demsocstar.png]] '''{{colorlink|#d60f18|Democratic Socialism}}''' - Not as guilty of appalling revisionism as [[File:Succdem.png]] Succdem and Bernstein up here, but most of you are still pretty revisionist... and most of you have no idea what 'socialism' or 'Marxism' even means.
** [[File:Demsucc.png]] '''{{colorlink|#d60f18|Democratic Socialism}}''' - Not as guilty of appalling revisionism as [[File:Succdem.png]] Succdem and Bernstein up here, but most of you are still pretty revisionist... and most of you have no idea what 'socialism' or 'Marxism' even means.
* [[File:Marketsoc.png]] '''{{colorlink|#e60000|Market Socialism}}''' - We should, as a matter of fact, not continue the same economic principles that capitalism operates under.
* [[File:Marketsoc.png]] '''{{colorlink|#e60000|Market Socialism}}''' - We should, as a matter of fact, not continue the same economic principles that capitalism operates under.
* [[File:AncomCuck.png]] '''{{colorlink|#ff0000|Anarcho-Communism}}''' (and [[File:Anar1.png]] Anarchism in general) - "We did it Patrick, we abolished the state!"; while economic classes continue to exist and the state either operates as a dictatorship of the peasantry, petit-bourgeoisie or proletariat.
* [[File:AncomCuck.png]] '''{{colorlink|#ff0000|Anarcho-Communism}}''' (and [[File:Anar1.png]] Anarchism in general) - "We did it Patrick, we abolished the state!"; while economic classes continue to exist and the state either operates as a dictatorship of the peasantry, petit-bourgeoisie or proletariat.
* [[File:Libtard.png]] '''{{colorlink|#006AA7|Liberalism}}''' - Be quiet.
* [[File:Libtard.png]] '''{{colorlink|#006AA7|Liberalism}}''' - Be quiet.
** [[File:LibtardSoc.png]] '''{{colorlink|#D00505|Liberal Socialism}}''' - Marx is crying from his grave.
** [[File:LibtardSoc.png]] '''{{colorlink|#D00505|Liberal Socialism}}''' - Marx is crying from his grave.
* [[File:Communization.png]] '''{{colorlink|#f80000|Communization Theory|Comm}}{{colorlink|#008080|Communization Theory|unization}} {{colorlink|#007f00|Communization Theory|Theory}}''' - Behold, the best of the petit-bourgeois shitstorms to have came out of the '68 protests. Not necessarily harmful, but utopian in its thinking.<br>
"Communization of social relations" are, as a matter of fact, only capable of being done by a dictatorship of the proletariat, as all other classes are by principal opposed to such a thing. We wish to not utilize the dictatorship of the proletariat... yet by the very nature of communism it is such a proletarian thing that it is only possible through absolute control of the proletariat that communism can arise out of.
"The proletariat is a class that is marked by their own oppress-" Wamp wamp.
: [[File:AnCommunization.png]] '''{{colorlink|#f80000|Communization Theory|Anarcho-}}{{colorlink|#008080|Communization Theory|Communization}} {{colorlink|#141414|Communization Theory|Theory}}''' - Jesus Christ. At least the first one had redeeming qualities; this one is just retarded.
* [[File:Auton.png]] '''{{Colorlink|#ff0000|Autonomism}}''' - Why is it that those who self-proclaim themselves to be the 'purest communists' or whatever are the most anti-Marxist in their nature? Anti-Organizationalism is retarded.
=== the big bads ===
=== the big bads ===
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Revision as of 05:50, 9 February 2024

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"People can really believe anything these days!" - Ismism

This page is meant to represent Kalivyah's political views. Please do not make any major edits without their permission.


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This page is not done yet and may still contain inaccurate information or miss important details.

Ironically not all that Leninist.

This is what happens when you cross Leninism, Council Communism and Internationalist Communism. In other words, "all power to the Soviets [councils]", except literally.

I'm fundamentally a leftcom/council communist who still believes in a vanguard party to teach the masses, but not to lead them (except in the revolution as a rallying point) or to serve as a government of any form. I reject the idea of a party dictatorship. "Why do you still call yourself Leninist?", one may ask. The answer is very simple! "I like Lenin."

Summarized Beliefs

Government

council communism. council/soviet democracy. elected representatives who's mandate can be revoked at any time.

Economics

bottom up system, not top-down. not decentralized though- very much centralized. councils decide in collaboration with one another their economic 'plans' (for lack of a better word) until it finally reaches the top. economic planning should be as close to the local governments as possible.

Diplomacy

giga proletarian annihilation of classes, nations, and countries

Technology & Nature

cybercommunism is the natural conclusion of marxism with our current level of development. at the same time i don't want the earth to turn into a technological shithole where everything is concrete and whatever. so a little bit of ecological socialism mixed in there too.

Culture

literally standard communist stuff lmfao vanguard party should educate the people. blah blah. 'cultural revolution' but not maoite definition.

you will read theory, inshallah

Relationships

Parents

  • Marxism - Hi, dad.
    • Leninism - You honestly don't influence me all that much, but you're an honorary parent.
    • Council Communism - It took me way too long to realize that believing in a vanguard party who only educates the masses and also believing in council communism are not at all mutually exclusive. Councilism is literally the purest form of proletarian organization there is.

Family

  • Internationalist Communism - Mean book nerds, but I can't deny that you're champions of Marxism who have tried so desperately to defend it from the revisionism of Stalin and... others. *shivers*

Friends

  • Libertarian Marxism - I mean- you're alright... there's nothing necessarily wrong with seeing Marxism from a more libertarian perspective. But like- come on. Some of you are way too close to anarchism for comfort.
  • Luxemburgism - I do quite like you. You're alright. Just please stop calling Lenin a Anarcho-Syndicalist... whatever that is supposed to imply.
  • Trotskyism - I like you. Would probably place in family if it wasn't for the fact that you're a massive supporter of party dictatorship... which is antithesis to my ideals.

Neutral

  • Centrist Marxism - You're bad. Very bad. But somehow I can't place you in 'Lumpenproletariat'.
  • Ego-Communism - You're fine. I'm not opposed to your egoism; I believe that communism is as egoistic as it is selfless, but I do not approve of the anarchism whatsoever or the belief that communism is opposed to egoism when it as a matter of fact is among the most egoistic idea aside from most obviously egoism itself.

lumpenproletariat

  • Marxism-Leninism - Marxism-Leninism has been, without a doubt, the most damaging thing to the proletarian movement in all of its history. Even more than social democracy- even more than Bernstein... just straight up worse than socdems.
    • Stalinism - do not tell stalinists who scream about revisionism and anti-reformism that stalin was a reformist who forced communist movements to collaborate with liberals (fascists), authored programs for communist parties like the communist party of great britain which explicitly denounced revolutionary activity in favor of reformism, denied proletarian revolution in france because he thought "we would win by elections" and also that he scrapped an entire ready-to-go communist cabinet for austria in favor of a would-be nazi collaborator socdem who got his ass rejected by the nazis because he was a socdem
      • Mao Zedong Thought - Maoism is Anti-Communism. You do not have any bright ideas. Now fuck off.
        • Maoism - Adventurist dumbassery. See above.
  • Bernsteinism - I take my comment back. You still suck. You are still absolutely horrible, but I don't think you fucked up as badly as ^ he did.
    • Social Democracy - Abandoned historical and dialectical materialism in favor of sucking up to capitalism and trying to 'fix it', as if though it isn't functioning as intended.
    • Democratic Socialism - Not as guilty of appalling revisionism as Succdem and Bernstein up here, but most of you are still pretty revisionist... and most of you have no idea what 'socialism' or 'Marxism' even means.
  • Market Socialism - We should, as a matter of fact, not continue the same economic principles that capitalism operates under.
  • Anarcho-Communism (and Anarchism in general) - "We did it Patrick, we abolished the state!"; while economic classes continue to exist and the state either operates as a dictatorship of the peasantry, petit-bourgeoisie or proletariat.
  • Liberalism - Be quiet.
  • Communization Theory - Behold, the best of the petit-bourgeois shitstorms to have came out of the '68 protests. Not necessarily harmful, but utopian in its thinking.

"Communization of social relations" are, as a matter of fact, only capable of being done by a dictatorship of the proletariat, as all other classes are by principal opposed to such a thing. We wish to not utilize the dictatorship of the proletariat... yet by the very nature of communism it is such a proletarian thing that it is only possible through absolute control of the proletariat that communism can arise out of.

"The proletariat is a class that is marked by their own oppress-" Wamp wamp.

Anarcho-Communization Theory - Jesus Christ. At least the first one had redeeming qualities; this one is just retarded.
  • Autonomism - Why is it that those who self-proclaim themselves to be the 'purest communists' or whatever are the most anti-Marxist in their nature? Anti-Organizationalism is retarded.

the big bads

You already know what this section would be referring to, so rather than providing commentary which has been given time and time again, have a list of icons instead.



If I add you here by myself, it usually means I have a lot to say about you.

lenin spider detected

trotsky spider detected

mao spider detected

kautsky spider detected

stalin spider detected

  • stop moving your ideology around - Lumpenproletariat brainrot. I don't give a shit much that you're an egoist anymore, but everything else is moronic. Communization theory is a farce. You want and wish for anti-democracy and anti-organizationalism, yet you in practice still support organizationalism and organization... of course not touching on the fact that seriously believing that the proletariat is capable of freeing itself and later abolishing itself on an individual, divided and unorganized level is a stupid, utopian ideal which should have died with the utopian socialists. Nomadology is incompatible with materialism. Insurrection is adventurism and does not contribute anything productive to the liberation of the proletariat.

bernstein spider detected

  • Neo-Anbax - Seems to be confused. Claims to be an egoist and an individualist but also a collectivist. Claims to be an Egoist but is an authoritarian. Claims to be a nihilist but is also an optimist.

I've said enough on Egoists for you to know how I feel about Egoists and the lot. Not much for me to say on that.

  • Neo-Neo-Baxism - What do I have to say about you? You're the exact same as before, you just cleaned up your article and supposedly removed a couple of its contradictions.

No more larping. Bad. *swats*. And Contrarianism doesn't mean 'be contradictory' it means 'you're opposed to ruling/prevailing political ideologies'.

goebbels spider detected

  • brazil - Brazillian. Instantly sent to the 6th circle of hell.

larpers