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|title=Vistulism | |title=[[File:Vistula3.png]] Vistulism | ||
|quote=Exploitation of capital is our enemy and that must be rid of alongside the evil status quo. | |||
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'''please add some....'''<br> | |||
{{Alias|Neo-Robespierrisme_icon.png |Neo-Robespierrisme|Anarcho-Sillyism}}<br> | |||
{{Alias|Brazlib.png|Brazilian Liberalism|[[file:CruzFan.png]] English Tedcruzfan}}<br> | |||
*How tf? | |||
**[[file:Brazlib.png]] - A joke because you two seems to be the exact opposite of each other | |||
***very 10/10 joke | |||
{{Alias|StockMarketC.png|Romantic Egoism|Robo Retard}}<br> | |||
{{Alias|Hood.png|Hoodism|British Meridionalism}} | |||
|alignments= | |alignments= | ||
*{{Info/ | *{{Info/LibLefts}} | ||
*{{ | '''MBTI''': INTP-T | ||
|closest8v= | |||
[[File:Libsoc.png]] {{PCB|Libertarian Socialism}} | |||
*[[File:DvEquality.png]] 74.4% (Social) | |||
*[[File:World.png]] 78.9% (Internationalist) | |||
*[[File:DvAnarchy.png]] 88.7% (Libertarian) | |||
*[[File:DvNovelty.png]] 94.0% (Revolutionary) | |||
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*{{Arrow}} [[File:Awaj.png]] {{PCB|Anarchism}} | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:Directdem.png]] {{PCB|Democracy|Direct Democracy}} | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:E-Democracy.png]] {{PCB|E-Democracy}} | |||
|econinfluences= | |econinfluences= | ||
*[[File: | *{{Arrow}} [[File:Mutualist.png]] {{PCB|Mutualism}} | ||
*[[File: | |praxis= | ||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:InsMut.png]] {{PCBA|Insurrectionary Mutualism}} | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:Leftilleg.png]] {{PCB|Illegalism|Anti-Trust Aktion}} | |||
|techinfluences= | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:POSTHUMANISMICON.png]] {{PCB|Post-Humanism}} | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:Post-Genderism.png]] {{PCB|Postgenderism}} | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:Xenofeminism.png]] {{PCB|Xenofeminism}} | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:Nuclear_Power.png]] {{PCB|Posadism|Nuclear Power Advocacy}} | |||
|sympathies= | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:AnCommunization.png]] {{PCB|Communization Theory|Anarcho-Communization}} | |||
|antis= | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:LeftAntiSocdem.png]] {{PCBA|Left Anti-Social Democracy|Anti-Social Democracy}} | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:Impossible.png]] {{PCB|Impossibilism|Anti-Reformism}} | |||
*{{Arrow}} [[File:AntiTW.png]] {{PCB|Third Way|Anti-Third Way}} | |||
|founder=[[File:RevSoc.png]] Edward Deegan (2008-) | |||
}} | }} | ||
==Foundations for Mutual Aid Based Economics== | |||
==Democracy The Gatekeeper of Progress== | |||
==How Centrism Helps the Status Quo== | |||
==When and Why did Reform Become Unthinkable== | |||
==Status Quo: It is Unfortunately Here, There and There and even There== | |||
Whether it be the simple bleak coloring of your home or the the complicated process of democracy, the status quo is everywhere, it is a pandemic. | |||
=="State Realism"== | |||
It is a common belief that the state is some apostle of society. A concept that holds together the fabric of society. But what if I told you that this is not the case? You see the state is like any organisation, one way and another it is driven by the motive of personal profit. Unlike corporations however, this state, this kleptocracy is in charge right now. Too many people believe humanity cannot govern themselves but then may I ask what species we have been electing for the past centuries? In stateless direct democracy, great suggestions of ideas shall rise to the top whilst those which are useless shall stay at the bottom <br> | |||
The ego is universal and so anybody ruling over shall act in their own self-interest when it comes to it. The ego fears death for death is the ultimate form of authority where you are held from doing anything.<br> | |||
What is better - a society for the people run by the people or a society for the people run by a single citizen or congress of a few citizens? Id say the former as in the latter scenario, every request must go through the government and so no matter hoe good or popular it is, if it doesn't help drive these specific people's egos, they shall not stand for it. Democracy must not br a single decision process but a process of continuous decision with change bought about by people and unwanted change demolished by these same people. | |||
==What political party do I remind you of/am I most like?== | |||
==Reading Queue== | |||
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(Put books at the bottom, if you want to suggest one, put your ideology/user in brackets next to the book name, also if you're real nice, put a link to it.) | |||
*[[File:Landian_Accelerationism.png]] The Dark Enlightenment (Nick Land) [https://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/ ➤] | |||
|-|Have Read (2024)= | |||
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== | ==<big>Opinions</big>== | ||
===🤩 Incredible=== | |||
'' | *[[File:Mini-grug.png]] [[Grugoidism]] - From what I can see from the small amount of information on your page, your ideology seems very good. I agree with everything on it except the cultural centrism. I believe centrism will always help retain the status quo which we as anarchists must do our best to defeat. Minor differences though, as you said when ranking me. We're also both Optimists (well I'm an Optimistic Nihilist so 50/50) | ||
===😃 Great=== | |||
*{{Bax}} ([[File:Altru Ego.png|link=Anarcho-Egoism]]/[[File:Enlightenment.png|link=Enlightenment]]/[[File:FreeJacobin.png|link=Jacobinism]]/[[File:DirecteddSoc.png|link=Directed Socialism]]) - Hello Bax, been a while, you've still got as original views as ever. Your departure from anarchism is something I would normally disagree with, but you seem to do it for good reason so I understand. You're still very progressive which is wonderful and counters the nationalism you have, which is a thing that I very much dislike. Your ideas are set out very well and with good reasoning to all of you so I can't really mark you down when you explain reasoning, that'd be petty. Also also, about your nationalism, it doesn't seem to be the bad, hate everyone else, fuck the world nationalism that plagues many ideologies so I guess its tolerable. | |||
*{{Merid}} - Howdy Hood. I guess Cofano Model is still crying in the corner. I have sympathies to Communization Theory, it's a big thing with me. I have considered embracing it and Camel talking about anti-capital on Discord has really peaked my interest meaning it isn't an ideology I disagree with in the slightest. Post-Anarchism also interests me. Overall, I could become very similar than this if the balance between my current ideas and communization had a bit of a "tip over the other side". Maybe when I read Everything Must Go Abolition of Value I'll have more understanding of it and be able to make a better viewpoint of communization, whether it be negative or positive. | |||
===🙂 Good=== | |||
*{{Romcom}} - You definitely are something. Post-modernism and post-structuralism are things that I don't embrace personally but don't hate at all (similar to my stance on stuff like communization). There's not much here I understand at the moment considering my inability to do successful learning. You're influenced by Proudhon though so that's good [[File:Troll.png]]. I read your "The Anarch" writing and it's definitely quite interesting, [[File:Junger.png]] Ernst Jünger seems to have some rather "stimulating" beliefs which I now really wanna look into, if only I had motivation that didn't end the second I put the comma on that sentence affirming my motivation. But, Primitivism. Primitivism. Primitivism. PRIMITIVISM. Non-existent heavens please use your non-existent judgement to get the subjective disease that is primitivism away from me. | |||
===😐 Neutral=== | |||
===🙁 Eh=== | |||
*{{SchumaIcons}} - Gonna be honest, your economics absolutely disgust me and I find Rand's Objectivism to be horrible. (Considering I'm leftist, you can likely guess why.) Your progressivism is great though and the belief that polluting the environment is a violation of the NAP really needs to become widespread. (Also we both dislike [[File:Muslim_2.png]][[File:Catheo.png]] lol [[File:Troll.png]]). You're not the worst capitalist I've seen, definitely an improvement from a standard objectivist. I just have a follow-up question, you don't have to answer it if you don't wish to, but here it is in case you do - if somebody wants to setup a charity in their own self-interest, maybe they're into helping for some unknown reason, would that be allowed? You're anti-charity on your alignments but I'm not sure what the extent of that is. (Maybe I've missed where it says more about it somewhere?) | |||
===😦 Bad=== | |||
===🤯 What The Fuck=== | |||
*[[File: Brazlib.png]] [[Brazilian Liberalism]] - Imperialist worshipper detected, opinion rejected. like seriously stop worshipping imperialism its so fucking cringe you cannot seriously see the bombing of gaza children and be like "haha i support this". you're also a sad attempt at social meritocracy, sure that'll work, definitely.. | |||
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Revision as of 00:20, 18 January 2024
Foundations for Mutual Aid Based Economics
Democracy The Gatekeeper of Progress
How Centrism Helps the Status Quo
When and Why did Reform Become Unthinkable
Status Quo: It is Unfortunately Here, There and There and even There
Whether it be the simple bleak coloring of your home or the the complicated process of democracy, the status quo is everywhere, it is a pandemic.
"State Realism"
It is a common belief that the state is some apostle of society. A concept that holds together the fabric of society. But what if I told you that this is not the case? You see the state is like any organisation, one way and another it is driven by the motive of personal profit. Unlike corporations however, this state, this kleptocracy is in charge right now. Too many people believe humanity cannot govern themselves but then may I ask what species we have been electing for the past centuries? In stateless direct democracy, great suggestions of ideas shall rise to the top whilst those which are useless shall stay at the bottom
The ego is universal and so anybody ruling over shall act in their own self-interest when it comes to it. The ego fears death for death is the ultimate form of authority where you are held from doing anything.
What is better - a society for the people run by the people or a society for the people run by a single citizen or congress of a few citizens? Id say the former as in the latter scenario, every request must go through the government and so no matter hoe good or popular it is, if it doesn't help drive these specific people's egos, they shall not stand for it. Democracy must not br a single decision process but a process of continuous decision with change bought about by people and unwanted change demolished by these same people.
What political party do I remind you of/am I most like?
Reading Queue
(Put books at the bottom, if you want to suggest one, put your ideology/user in brackets next to the book name, also if you're real nice, put a link to it.)
The Dark Enlightenment (Nick Land) ➤
Opinions
🤩 Incredible
Grugoidism - From what I can see from the small amount of information on your page, your ideology seems very good. I agree with everything on it except the cultural centrism. I believe centrism will always help retain the status quo which we as anarchists must do our best to defeat. Minor differences though, as you said when ranking me. We're also both Optimists (well I'm an Optimistic Nihilist so 50/50)
😃 Great
Baxism (
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) - Hello Bax, been a while, you've still got as original views as ever. Your departure from anarchism is something I would normally disagree with, but you seem to do it for good reason so I understand. You're still very progressive which is wonderful and counters the nationalism you have, which is a thing that I very much dislike. Your ideas are set out very well and with good reasoning to all of you so I can't really mark you down when you explain reasoning, that'd be petty. Also also, about your nationalism, it doesn't seem to be the bad, hate everyone else, fuck the world nationalism that plagues many ideologies so I guess its tolerable.- Venatrixism - Howdy Hood. I guess Cofano Model is still crying in the corner. I have sympathies to Communization Theory, it's a big thing with me. I have considered embracing it and Camel talking about anti-capital on Discord has really peaked my interest meaning it isn't an ideology I disagree with in the slightest. Post-Anarchism also interests me. Overall, I could become very similar than this if the balance between my current ideas and communization had a bit of a "tip over the other side". Maybe when I read Everything Must Go Abolition of Value I'll have more understanding of it and be able to make a better viewpoint of communization, whether it be negative or positive.
🙂 Good
Romantic Egoism 
- You definitely are something. Post-modernism and post-structuralism are things that I don't embrace personally but don't hate at all (similar to my stance on stuff like communization). There's not much here I understand at the moment considering my inability to do successful learning. You're influenced by Proudhon though so that's good 
. I read your "The Anarch" writing and it's definitely quite interesting, 
Ernst Jünger seems to have some rather "stimulating" beliefs which I now really wanna look into, if only I had motivation that didn't end the second I put the comma on that sentence affirming my motivation. But, Primitivism. Primitivism. Primitivism. PRIMITIVISM. Non-existent heavens please use your non-existent judgement to get the subjective disease that is primitivism away from me.
😐 Neutral
🙁 Eh
Schumacherianism
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) - Gonna be honest, your economics absolutely disgust me and I find Rand's Objectivism to be horrible. (Considering I'm leftist, you can likely guess why.) Your progressivism is great though and the belief that polluting the environment is a violation of the NAP really needs to become widespread. (Also we both dislike 
lol ). You're not the worst capitalist I've seen, definitely an improvement from a standard objectivist. I just have a follow-up question, you don't have to answer it if you don't wish to, but here it is in case you do - if somebody wants to setup a charity in their own self-interest, maybe they're into helping for some unknown reason, would that be allowed? You're anti-charity on your alignments but I'm not sure what the extent of that is. (Maybe I've missed where it says more about it somewhere?)
😦 Bad
🤯 What The Fuck
Brazilian Liberalism - Imperialist worshipper detected, opinion rejected. like seriously stop worshipping imperialism its so fucking cringe you cannot seriously see the bombing of gaza children and be like "haha i support this". you're also a sad attempt at social meritocracy, sure that'll work, definitely..
