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'''bye bye :) Okay I've been asked some times now why I left so I'll leave it here. 1) School. I'm heavily into school right now, I have big aspirations, which require a lot of work and therefore a lot of time. I need a break from Polcompball to facilitate it. 2) Polcompball. The idea of polcompball sounds very good, representing political ideas in the format of balls and whatever, that's awesome, but the fact is that humanity ruins everything as always...humanity and its consequences have been a disaster for polcompball or something, I don't know. You are not a Landian fighting for the forces of technocapital, you are not the reincarnation of Mao Zedong engaged in protracted people's war against the Peruvian government; you are just an debatably-functioning autistic over the top crazy bastard, and I'm gonna nick land a date with your mother. Polcompball runs like trends - I mean, like, one person adopts something -> fringe communities adopt it because it has a cool icon with a specific hexadecimal value we've not seen before <s>(most likely forest green considering nobody here goes outside)</s> -> pseuds completely misunderstand it and it to their ideas -> new users are indoctrinated with it and grossly oversimplify the entirety of the thing to the point where its probably resembling something the original creator wrote a critique of <s>Bataille reference</s> Anyways, craziness away. 3) Just that I've been too addicted to this lol.'''
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'''Note: I am not a primitivist, nor an anarchist....like seriously bro 🌻'''<br>
'''im also not a progressive or a "leftist", most of those people are honestly sickening'''<br>
'''Me asf: ''' ([[File:Com.png]]/[[File:Anti-Humanism.png]]/[[File:Stirner.png]])


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'''Official'''<br>
*[[File:MariArist.png]] Aristocratic Communism (jokingly)
'''User Aliases'''<br>
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• [[File:Marx.png]] Karl Marx 📵<br>
• [[File:Stirner.png]] Max Stirner 👓<br>
• [[File:Camatte.png]] Jacques Camatte 🦗<br>
• [[File:Fisher.png]] Mark Fisher 🎣<br>
• [[File:Debord.png]] Guy Debord 🚬<br>
• [[File:Ted Kaczynski.png]] Ted Kaczynski 📩
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• [[File:Anti-Humanism.png]] {{PHB|Anti-Humanism}}<br>
• [[File:Arisoc.png]] [[Aristocracy]] (sorta)<br>
• [[File:Egocom.png]] [[Ego-Communism|Egoist Communism]]<br>
• [[File:Camatte.png]] [[Italian Left Communism|Left Communism]]<br>
• [[File:Neomarx.png]] [[Neo-Marxism]]<br>
• [[File:Situ.png]] [[Situationism]]<br>
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'''note: these are ironic things i make because of boredom, they dony reflect my actual views, uhh blah blah blah'''
*[[File:Arisposcom.png]] '''Aristocratic Post-Communism''' {{Collapse|
**(very unbased and evil, communism is trve dovbleplvsgood liberation)
**[[File:MoralNihil.png]] {{PHB|Moral Nihilism}}
**[[File:Anarist.png]] {{PCBA|Anarcho-Aristocracy}}
**[[File:Avar.png]] {{PCB|Avaritionism}}
**[[File:EconKrater.png]] {{PCB|Kraterocracy}}
**[[File:Autism.png]] [[Autism|Severe Retardation]]
**[[File:Honk.png]] {{PCB|Satirism}}
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[[File:Debord.png]][[File:Fisher.png]][[File:Ted Kaczynski.png]] Reading Random Suicidal Writers<br>
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[[File:Autism.png]] Neo-Autist Jargonslop<br>
[[File:Nation.png]] Unbuttered Toast<br>
[[File:Bataille.png]] My inability to understand what the fuck this guy is going on about
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Eleutherianism is a [[File:Commie.png]] [[Communism|communist]] "ideology" based on the beliefs of NewMaritimeVistula. Its kind of a whole load of yapping, but uhh if you're into that, feel free to be into it.
 
==Some Debord and Fisher Rambling==
'''This will be expanded and rephrased later. Not a fan of it.'''<br>
The spectacle is a social relation mediated by images, and it is most notably alienation (estrangement) present within the capitalist mode of production in an advanced form. Let me reiterate; the spectacle must not be reduced to simply a collection of images or the general concept of media - the idea of the spectacle is rather social relations mediated by images. With this mediation, social life has been reduced. Reduced to continuous cycles of passive consumption, and passive observation, rather than active cosumption/observation we religiously worship capitalism for providing. Why is the spectacle an advanced form of alienation? It is because of its abstraction of social relations into representations which mediate lived experience, through the commodity; the production of goods for exchange rather than for consumption, which is eternally present throughout capitalist societies transforms social relations into alienated relations between things. Through the spectacle, not only labour is alienated - human interaction itself has too suffered this alienation at the terror of the commodity. So, in summary, I think we can best describe the society of the spectacle as a society in which all social relations are mediated through images and, of course, the commodity. The consequence of the society of the spectacle is the detachment of ourselves from our direct experiences, presenting us with a life of passivity. The spectacle is special in that sense that it doesn't just alienate labor, but alienates life itself. (Yes I know that was a lot of repetition, fuck you and whatever football team you support..)<br><br>
The concept of the spectacle can be drawn back to Marx's idea of commodity fetishism, as part of his social analysis of the capitalist mode of production. You probably already know this but commodity fetishism is that way in which the social relations within production appear as relations between commodities rather than between people, alienating labourer from their labour. Commodity fetishism obscures the social relations which produce the commodity, giving the commodities an appearingly independent, intrinsic value independent of the socially necessary labour time for their production. The spectacle is rampant and mad fetishism, fetishism to the extreme, whatever you may title it - it is commodity fetishism applied to an expanded idea of the commodity - social life is a commodity, experience is a commodity. The spectacle turns all aspects of our existence into something to be exchanged, or represented through imagery. In this fashion, the alienation of the worker from the product of their labor in capitalist society has evolved into the alienation of the individual from their own life under the society of the spectacle. Alienation has escaped the workplace.<br><br>
Now then - Mark Fisher, my favorite suicide man, not to be confused with [[File:Debord.png]] the best cigarette-smoking suicide man (or [[File:Ted Kaczynski.png]] MK-Ultra and its consequences have been a disaster for mathematics). I believe this idea of a passive experience present within the situationist's theory can be tied to Fisher's theory of capitalist realism. They of course share initial connections as they are both critiques of capitalist domination over social life, but digging deeper is necessary. Fisher speaks of the ideologically pervasive frontier of capitalism, where capitalism presents itself as the only viable economic system, whilst the situationists speak of the society of the spectacle where capital holds domination over social life. Two separate but connected frontiers. We can say that through the spectacle, capitalism reinforces its own legitimacy (this capitalist realism) by shaping how people perceive reality (as with the case of the fetishism of commodities), making it appear as if the capitalist mode of production is not just dominant but natural and inevitable. (like how business is seen as natural and obvious through business ontology.) The spectacle is a sociocultural as well as an ideological structure which supports capitalist realism, upholding the capitalist mode of production, and turning us into mere passive observers of what could be our own life. Both capitalist realism and the spectacle are able to naturalise alienation to the herd. There is no more political imagination, we cannot free our desire, we have lost our future through the eternalisation of this miserable present. Lost futures are futures that could have been, but the society of the spectacle has crippled reality.<br><br>
 
==[[File:Egophil.png]] Persons and [[File:Slavery.png]] Peoples==
<p class="statement-paragraph">There truly are persons and peoples in this world, which forms a hierarchy - a currently non-existent, imaginary hierarchy, a hierarchy much more in imaginary dreams. The rule of the best is the rule of persons, not peoples. But what differentiates persons from peoples? Well, I've tried to make it as obvious as possible in the difference in the two words, but for the illiterate out there, yes I'm so kind, I shall give you a definition. Persons are those who assert their own identity, rejecting the agents of socialisation which threaten our realisation of the creative nothing, such as the family, social norms, education, etc. Peoples are those who follow herd mentality, and are governed by tradition, and morality. The transformation from people (singular) to person is the transcendence of this external governance - becoming The Unique. This transcendence is not only overcoming what is external but also overcoming yourself, rising above not only external weaknesses but the hindrances internal to you. The person creates their own values, values governed by the person. On the other hand, peoples's (horrendous, I know) did not create their own values and are governed by them. Peoples range across all political orders - from the oversocialised leftist to the ol' traditionalist. In an aristocratic sense, persons are superior to peoples, they are the selective best. Are there any persons under capitalist society? This is a question which is hard to answer, but I would say it is quite unlikely. Therefore, I believe that the destruction of the capitalist system through any means necessary is a necessary step for the realization of this hierarchy, and self-overcoming. Examples of capitalist society's incompatiability with this hierarchy is commodification, which is much like its own agent of socialisation, and therefore destructive to any form of transcendence.</p>
 
==[[File:Question.png]] Thinking about the Party [[File:Party.png]]==
 
===[[File:Classwaricon.png]] Will the Party lead to Class Consciousness?===
My fellow psueds who have devoted their life to the craft of shooting themselves in their foot and pretending to enjoy it have alerted me that this is braindead and pseudo-intellectual. So lets talk about chickens instead. 🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔 CHICKENS ARE CLUCKING LEGENDS 🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔 These majestic creatures lay eggs! EGGS! I FUCKING LOVE EGGS  These majestic creatures lay eggs!  These majestic creatures lay eggs!  These majestic creatures lay eggs!  These majestic creatures lay eggs!  These majestic creatures lay eggs!  These majestic creatures lay eggs!  These majestic creatures lay eggs! CLUCKING LEGENDS 🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔
 
==[[File:Slavery.png]] On Slavery==
 
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==[[File:Yes.png]] Relations [[File:No.png]]==
{{Quote|A spectre is haunting Europe—the spectre of communism.|[[File:Marx.png]] Karl Marx}}
[[File:GreenMari.png]] {{Color|#297740|'''Eleutherianism'''}} ([[File:Com.png]]/[[File:Anti-Humanism.png]]/[[File:Stirner.png]])
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|-|Ideologies=
'''Yes'''
*[[File:Unconditional Accelerationism.png]] [[Unconditional Accelerationism]] - I still have a very limited understanding of accelerationism, but from what I've seen a bit, you're here.
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - It's complicated, but you're still mostly alright.
*[[File:Stirner.png]] {{PHB|Stirnerism}} - The great egoist apostle writes! The Unique and its Property is an incredible book.
'''Middle'''
*[[File:Anprim.png]] [[Anarcho-Primitivism]] - Whilst I understand your dissatisfaction with modern society, anarchism won't work and primitivism is not a viable solution.
*[[File:Indust.png]] [[Industrialism]] - That does not mean you're off the hook...
*[[File:Ted Kaczynski.png]] [[Kaczynskism]] - MK-Ultra made good things happen too...
'''No'''
*[[File:Libfem.png]] [[Liberal Feminism]] - Rise to the top of the corporation! Fall 6 feet deep! The women's movement for the subjugation of ourselves! Lovely! Lovely! Fucking fools.
*[[File:Cball-Palestine.png]][[File:Zionazi.png]] [[Palestinian Nationalism|These]] [[Zionism|Idiots]] - An ethnicity can't own land. Let us burn your sad little books until you feel suffering equivalent to the thousands of children.
*[[File:Indigenous Anarchism.png]] [[Indigenism]] - An ethnicity still can't own land, it is so fucking stupid! Murder is bad so give the murderous natives their land back! Murderous natives or murderous Americans? I'll recognise the ones not worshipping leaves, the ones who actually have power, thank you very much. Let these silly movements die already... Just nationalism under a cloak!
*[[File:Con-t.png]] [[Conservatism]] - No. I do not owe anything to my community. No, things should not slow down.
*[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]] - Progress is entirely relative, you're a false idea.
*[[File:Neolib.png]] [[Neoliberalism]] - I think its obvious...
*[[File:Dysgen.png]] [[Dysgenicism|Dysgenic Supremacism]] - Reformist Marxism and its consequences...maybe [[File:Biolen.png]] these crazy people have the slightest point about the left. But yeah things like Indigenous Nationalism supported by the Western leftist are merely bits of dysgenicism.
|-|Self-Inserts=
'''Yes'''
*[[File:Yatgar.png]] {{PCBA|Yatagarasism}} - Your analysis of the Japanese left is wonderful, it is much like, to all our dismay, the British left. Burnt to a crisp. The parties truly have rejected any form of revolutionary praxis, they have resorted to reformism, calling themselves Marxist despite the Utopian hellhole their reformist ideas crawl out of. We must start anew. Capital has indeed killed tradition. Your Japanese tradition is nothing more than a new movie for us all to consume, in this wonderful little consumerist world we live in, with all its nice bells and cookies. Nobility and honour have become capitalist values - the bourgeoisie, who previously played a role as revolutionaries, no, their loose little creature, their uncaged bird, capital, has forced upon us this poison. Let's do our best. (oh wait...that's a song isn't it... can't have shit in detroit...)
'''Middle'''
'''No'''
|-|People=
'''Yes'''
*<s>[[File:BoJo.png]] [[Conservatism|Boris Johnson]] - Long live the Borisreich!</s>
'''Middle'''
*[[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]] - It's...complicated.
'''No'''
*[[File:Hitler.png]] [[Nazism|Adolf Hitler]] - lol you fucking sucked, couldn't even get into art school, what a fucking skill issue, bro really thought jew control world hahahahah lmfaoooo
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== [[File:Book.png]] {{BoldText|Reading List}} ==
'''note: i've read more than this i just can't be arsed to list it all so yeah'''
*[[File:CapRealism.png]] Capitalist Realism
*[[File:Debord.png]] Society of the Spectacle
*[[File:Stirner.png]] The Unique and its Property
*[[File:Camatte.png]] The Wandering of Humanity
*[[File:Camatte.png]] Against Domestication
 
=== [[File:Book.png]] {{BoldText|Currently Reading}} ===
*[[File:Camatte.png]] Capital and Community
**The forms of value and the definition of capital
*[[File:Bataille.png]] The Accursed Share...for the, like, 4th time...
 
=== [[File:Book.png]] {{BoldText|Upcoming}} ===


=== [[File:Armchair-template.png]] {{BoldText|Useful Shit}} ===
==[[File:Marx.png]] A General Critique of Marxist-Leninist States (WIP)==
*[[File:Auton.png]] Communists Like Us
The Marxist-Leninist implementation of the communist project is the most venerated communist movement among the various communist parties among the world. Despite the praise given to such a movement, this movement is not the real movement for the liberation of the proletariat, which Marx and Engels spoke of in their original texts, and we can see this through the "socialist commodity production" present within the USSR under the tenure of Joseph Stalin, the theoriser of Marxist-Leninist ideology. We can characterise socialism as the end of the commodity form, as well as the wage-labour system, which under the capitalist mode of production, has become our answer to the basic economic problem of scarcity. It is incorrect to suppose that socialism is merely a stage in which private ownership of the means of production is ended; this is not the fulfillment of the socialist project, otherwise, we would conclude that state capitalism is a form of socialism, which is clearly a false statement. The commodity is defined as having a two-fold value, a use-value, and an exchange-value, with the law of value determining that the value of a commodity is determined by its socially necessary labor time (the amount of time "required to produce an article under the normal conditions of production, and with the average degree of skill and intensity") Despite the nationalisation of industry within the USSR, the economy there still maintained capitalist properties, there was no transcendence of the laws of capitalist economy. Even if we say the means of production were put in the hands of the labourer, this is of course not the achievement of the socialist project, because without the transcendence of the commodity (which would itself eliminate private ownership of the means of production through the socialisation/decommodification of the MoP), we cannot say socialism exists. Under the USSR, workers were merely wage labourers under ''state'' capitalism.<br><br>But we need to prove this of course, this is multiple useless statements otherwise.<br><br>First, we look at Marx's critique of political economy.  
*[[File:Auton.png]] Workers & Capital
{{Quote|Commodities come into the world in the shape of use values, articles, or goods, such as iron, linen, corn, &c. This is their plain, homely, bodily form. They are, however, commodities, only because they are something two-fold, both objects of utility, and, at the same time, depositories of value. They manifest themselves therefore as commodities, or have the form of commodities, only in so far as they have two forms, a physical or natural form, and a value form.|[[File:Marx.png]] Karl Marx|Capital, Volume 1}}
*[[File:Andrew Culp.png]] Dark Deleuze
It is a basic of Marxist ideas that commodities, produced for the specific purpose of being exchanged, have both a use-value and an exchange-value, and the process of commodity production leads to alienation, where labour and its products become detached from the laborers at the commodified means of production.<br><br>'''I'm a shameful counterrevolutionary so I'll choose to sleep and complete this tommorrow, here's quote on why this is bad:''' {{Quote|Do not put off until tomorrow what can be done today|[[File:Chad.png]] Sensei Wu}}
*[[File:Andrew Culp.png]] Accelerationism and the Need for Speed
*[[File:Landstreicher.png]] Barbaric Thoughts
*[[File:Camatte.png]] Origin and Function of the Party Form
*[[File:Camatte.png]] The Democratic Mystification
*[[File:Rousseau.png]] The Social Contract
*[[File:JuliusEvola.png]] Revolt Against the Modern World
*[[File:Kant.png]] Critique of Pure Reason
*[[File:Schopenhauer.png]] The World As Will And Idea
*[[File:Nietzsche.png]] On the Genealogy of Morality
*[[File:Nietzsche.png]] Beyond Good and Evil
*[[File:Nietzsche.png]] The Antichrist

Revision as of 04:58, 9 November 2024





A spectre is haunting Europe—the spectre of communism.

Karl Marx


A General Critique of Marxist-Leninist States (WIP)

The Marxist-Leninist implementation of the communist project is the most venerated communist movement among the various communist parties among the world. Despite the praise given to such a movement, this movement is not the real movement for the liberation of the proletariat, which Marx and Engels spoke of in their original texts, and we can see this through the "socialist commodity production" present within the USSR under the tenure of Joseph Stalin, the theoriser of Marxist-Leninist ideology. We can characterise socialism as the end of the commodity form, as well as the wage-labour system, which under the capitalist mode of production, has become our answer to the basic economic problem of scarcity. It is incorrect to suppose that socialism is merely a stage in which private ownership of the means of production is ended; this is not the fulfillment of the socialist project, otherwise, we would conclude that state capitalism is a form of socialism, which is clearly a false statement. The commodity is defined as having a two-fold value, a use-value, and an exchange-value, with the law of value determining that the value of a commodity is determined by its socially necessary labor time (the amount of time "required to produce an article under the normal conditions of production, and with the average degree of skill and intensity") Despite the nationalisation of industry within the USSR, the economy there still maintained capitalist properties, there was no transcendence of the laws of capitalist economy. Even if we say the means of production were put in the hands of the labourer, this is of course not the achievement of the socialist project, because without the transcendence of the commodity (which would itself eliminate private ownership of the means of production through the socialisation/decommodification of the MoP), we cannot say socialism exists. Under the USSR, workers were merely wage labourers under state capitalism.

But we need to prove this of course, this is multiple useless statements otherwise.

First, we look at Marx's critique of political economy.

Commodities come into the world in the shape of use values, articles, or goods, such as iron, linen, corn, &c. This is their plain, homely, bodily form. They are, however, commodities, only because they are something two-fold, both objects of utility, and, at the same time, depositories of value. They manifest themselves therefore as commodities, or have the form of commodities, only in so far as they have two forms, a physical or natural form, and a value form.

Karl Marx, Capital, Volume 1


It is a basic of Marxist ideas that commodities, produced for the specific purpose of being exchanged, have both a use-value and an exchange-value, and the process of commodity production leads to alienation, where labour and its products become detached from the laborers at the commodified means of production.

I'm a shameful counterrevolutionary so I'll choose to sleep and complete this tommorrow, here's quote on why this is bad:

Do not put off until tomorrow what can be done today

Sensei Wu