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{{Ideology | {{Ideology | ||
|title=[[File:Espano12.png]] '''Iberian Directorialism''' [[File:Espano12.png]] | |title=[[File:Espano12.png]] '''Iberian Directorialism''' [[File:Espano12.png]] | ||
|image=File:Espano12God.png | |||
|aliases= | |aliases= | ||
'''Add some if you wish'''<br> | |||
*[[File:Prog-u.png]] Progressive [[File:Nation.png]] National [[File:Cball-Iberia.png]] Iberianism | *[[File:Prog-u.png]] Progressive [[File:Nation.png]] National [[File:Cball-Iberia.png]] Iberianism | ||
{{Alias|Brazlib.png|Brazilian Liberalism|[[file:BullMooseKak.png]] Kakistocratic Bull Moose Progressivism}} | *{{Alias|Bax.png|Baxism|[[File:Gigachad.png]] Iberian Basedism}} | ||
*{{Alias|Dokev.png|Dokevism| Based Falangist}} | |||
*{{Alias|Brazlib.png|Brazilian Liberalism|[[file:BullMooseKak.png]] Kakistocratic Bull Moose Progressivism}} | |||
|alignments= | |alignments= | ||
*{{Info/AuthLefts}} | *{{Info/AuthLefts}} | ||
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*{{Info/Technocrats}} | *{{Info/Technocrats}} | ||
*{{Info/Nationalists}} | *{{Info/Nationalists}} | ||
*{{Info/RevNat}} | |||
*{{Info/Corporatists}} | |||
*{{Info/Syndicalists}} | |||
*{{Info/Third Positionists}} | |||
*{{Info/Environmentalists}} | |||
*{{Name|:Category:Fascists|QuasiFash.png|#B8860B|Quasi-Fascists}} | *{{Name|:Category:Fascists|QuasiFash.png|#B8860B|Quasi-Fascists}} | ||
|caption=Portugal and Spain are disunited comrades who must come together in arms under a government of solidarity against our enemies. | |caption=Portugal and Spain are disunited comrades who must come together in arms under a government of solidarity against our enemies. | ||
|influences= | |influences= | ||
*[[File:Prgess.png]] [[Progressivism|Scientific Progressivism]] | |||
*[[File:Republicanismpix.png]] [[Republicanism]] | *[[File:Republicanismpix.png]] [[Republicanism]] | ||
*[[File:Nation.png]] [[Nationalism]] | *[[File:Nation.png]] [[Nationalism]] | ||
*[[File:Cball-Iberia.png]] [[Pan-Nationalism|Iberianism]] | *[[File:Cball-Iberia.png]] [[Pan-Nationalism|Iberianism]] | ||
*[[File:Flange.png]] [[Falangism]] | *[[File:Flange.png]] [[Falangism]] | ||
|founder= | |founder= | ||
*[[File:Espano12.png]] [[Falangism|Espano12]] (2007-) | *[[File:Espano12.png]] [[Falangism|Espano12]] (2007-) | ||
}} | }} | ||
= | {{Quote|The people pledge loyalty to the state. The state pledges loyalty to the people.|[[File:Espano12.png]] Espano12}}<br> | ||
{{Quote|The nation should not be forced by the nationalist. Rather, the nationalist should be forced by the nation.|[[File:Espano12.png]] Espano12}} | |||
{{BoldText| Hi [[File:Brazlib.png]] Killer Kitty, I still hate your existence 😈 !!!!}} | |||
=[[File:Nation.png]] Nationalism= | |||
I am a nationalist. That is, I love my [[File:Cball-Iberia.png]] country and the people in it. Unfortunately though, we have been seperated from [[File:Cball-Portugal.png]] our bretheren who we fought together with for so long because of differences in monarchy. I want the people of Portugal and Spain to be cared for, that being every single civilian who respects our language and culture. My technocracy stems from nationalism - this ideal for a nation of happy people. I think nationalism is the greatest form of servitude to your people rather than the other way around. Nationalism should never be the nation serving the state but the state serving the nation. | I am a nationalist. That is, I love my [[File:Cball-Iberia.png]] country and the people in it. Unfortunately though, we have been seperated from [[File:Cball-Portugal.png]] our bretheren who we fought together with for so long because of differences in monarchy. I want the people of Portugal and Spain to be cared for, that being every single civilian who respects our language and culture. My technocracy stems from nationalism - this ideal for a nation of happy people. I think nationalism is the greatest form of servitude to your people rather than the other way around. Nationalism should never be the nation serving the state but the state serving the nation. | ||
==Social Views== | ==[[File:Prog-u.png]] Social Views== | ||
The people of Iberia should be able to have their freedoms if they want it. What kind of nationalist would I be if I struck down people of my nation based on personal hatred? That is why I have no problem with people being LGBTQ, different religion and also disagreeing with government, that is their right. | The people of Iberia should be able to have their freedoms if they want it. What kind of nationalist would I be if I struck down people of my nation based on personal hatred? That is why I have no problem with people being LGBTQ, different religion and also disagreeing with government, that is their right. | ||
== | =[[File:Corptism.png]] Economics= | ||
My economics stem from the 26-point program of the [[File:Flange.png]] Falange, which I recommend people to read, it can be found [https://identityhunters.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/jose-antonio-primo-de-rivera-the-twenty-six-point-program-of-the-falange.pdf here], it is a very good read. I am specifically influenced by the "ECONOMY – LABOUR – CLASS STRUGGLE" section of the book, but I am also influenced by the "LAND" section. | ==Influences== | ||
My economics stem from the 26-point program of the [[File:Flange.png]] Falange, which I recommend people to read, it can be found [https://identityhunters.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/jose-antonio-primo-de-rivera-the-twenty-six-point-program-of-the-falange.pdf here], it is a very good read. I am specifically influenced by the "ECONOMY – LABOUR – CLASS STRUGGLE" section of the book, but I am also influenced by the "LAND" section. | |||
==Structure== | |||
[[File:Espano12_Structure.png|thumb|Structure of the Economy which serve the people]]<br> | |||
This is my ideal structure for an economy which serves the people.<br> | |||
In it, the state pledges loyalty to the people, the people pledge loyalty to the state, the state influences unions who command the firms. The firms produce items as per the requests of the unions and these items are given to the people. Any surplus or items not needed by the people is given to the state. With any money the state official has, it shall not fund its own lavish lifestyle, it shall be a citizen equal to all in all but responsibilities. Instead it will invest in funding various things such as the police, environmental repair, paying costs of production (if they are low) to help stop unemployment, it also funds education which shall teach the people. At the heart of this is to satisfy the people, who also are chosen from to lead the state, based on how suitable they are. There are many roles to create a functioning state: | |||
* '''[[File:Technocracy.png]] Head of State'''<br> | |||
The head of state acts as the organiser of all roles meaning they have a very important task, which is why they must not be run by [[File:Kak.png]] somebody not fit for the job. | |||
* [[File:Technocracy.png]] '''Ministers of State'''<br> | |||
Ministers of State are subordinates to the Head of State. They do crucial jobs such as paperwork/request management. | |||
* '''[[File:Synd.png]] National Union Advisors'''<br> | |||
National Union Advisors are made to regulate the unions, this means making sure they are not corrupt or lazy. If a union is found of being one of the above, it shall be temporarily commanded so that it can be reformed. If a national union advisor believes a union is corrupt or lazy, they may not simply reform a union with no proof, they must issue a request to a Minister of State. National Union Advisors are hired technocratically. If a National Union Advisor, despite their expertise (as assured by the technocratic system), do not do their job sufficiently, they may be voted out by the National Union by a similar request. | |||
* [[File:Nooc.png]] '''Lead Minister of Education'''<br> | |||
The coordinator of all ministers of education and Associates of Education. | |||
* [[File:Nooc.png]] '''Associates of Education'''<br> | |||
There shall be one Associate of Education per state and they shall carry out the tasks issues by the Lead Minister of Education. They are elected technocratically from each Minister of Education. | |||
* [[File:Nooc.png]] '''Ministers of Education'''<br> | |||
There is a board of education ministers per state, varying by the size. An ideal would be 6 ministers of education per 100,000 people (rounded up). (e.g. Madrid would have 192, Barcelona would have 98) | |||
* [[File:Krit.png]] '''Lead Minister of Justice'''<br> | |||
The coordinator of all ministers of justice. | |||
* [[File:Krit.png]] '''Ministers of Justice'''<br> | |||
The job of Ministers of Justice to ensure the right to fair trial for all and to ensure that judges give fair judgement. | |||
* [[File:Police.png]] '''Lead Minister of Police Regulation'''<br> | |||
The coordinator of all ministers of police regulation. | |||
* [[File:Police.png]] '''Ministers of Police Regulation'''<br> | |||
Police are not all morally correct people who want to serve the people. Some commit horrible crimes themselves and we must make sure to combat this with its own ministry. This ministry shall play a role in the background checks of police, the managing of a "Administrated Credit System for the Police" and "Social Credit System for the Police", both of which unify to form the "Police Credit System" in which police can be both reported by the public to lose or gain points or seen by a minister to lose or gain points. The ultimate ideal is one minister of police regulation shall be in every one of Spain's municipalities. If police are found comitting acts or have a negative score for longer than 6 months, they shall be retired from service. | |||
=State= | |||
==[[File:Republicanismpix.png]] Abolition of the Monarchy== | |||
The monarchy is disgraceful and not worthy of being associated with the new state. The [[File:Monarch.png]] monarchy funds its lavish lifestyle off of the people and gives nothing back for it. The people should not starve whilst the monarchy lives in luxury, [[File:Jacobin.png]] '''off with their head!''' | |||
==Spanish Republic or | ==[[File:Cball-Iberia.png]] Iberian Policy== | ||
The interests of people of Iberian descent should be cared for by the state more than the interests of others within the state. This is because these people have a greater connection with the land of the nation. The earth of Iberian is imbued with the spirit of the Iberian people. | |||
===Asssimilation=== | |||
Assimilation should be a goal of the nation, to connect the people to a unified culture. Spreading our beliefs to all people of the nation would be an ideal. | |||
==Military Service== | |||
I want compulsory military service for all men aged 18, for women it is optional. This is to ensure national integrity, strength for the people and a deterrent from people hurting each other as there would be known consequences. This military service would be 6 months long but can be extended to a maximum of 1 year for bad behavior. | |||
=[[File:Cball-2Spainrepub.png]] Spanish Republic or [[File:Franco.png]] Rebels= | |||
'''In the civil war, would I support the [[File:Cball-2Spainrepub.png]] Second Spanish Republic or [[File:Flange.png]][[File:Carlism.png]][[File:Franco.png]] the Rebels?''' I would personally support [[File:Cball-2Spainrepub.png]] Second Spanish Republic. This may be shocking to some as per my ideology but the Rebel front was often conservative and I don't like conservatism. I consider my economics against suppression of liberty, that being the suppression of liberty by bourgeoise and so. That means Conservatism is directly incompatibles with my ideals. Of course this does not mean I like [[File:Cball-2Spainrepub.png]] the Second Spanish Republic, it is just the lesser of two evils. (Furthermore, Franco reinstated the monarchy which is very horrible, I hate the monarchy we have.) | '''In the civil war, would I support the [[File:Cball-2Spainrepub.png]] Second Spanish Republic or [[File:Flange.png]][[File:Carlism.png]][[File:Franco.png]] the Rebels?''' I would personally support [[File:Cball-2Spainrepub.png]] Second Spanish Republic. This may be shocking to some as per my ideology but the Rebel front was often conservative and I don't like conservatism. I consider my economics against suppression of liberty, that being the suppression of liberty by bourgeoise and so. That means Conservatism is directly incompatibles with my ideals. Of course this does not mean I like [[File:Cball-2Spainrepub.png]] the Second Spanish Republic, it is just the lesser of two evils. (Furthermore, Franco reinstated the monarchy which is very horrible, I hate the monarchy we have.) | ||
= | =[[File:Cball-Iberia.png]] New Culture= | ||
Iberia is too divided. We need unity in differences between the [[File:Cball-Spain.png]][[File:Cball-Portugal.png]][[File:Cball-Catalonia.png]][[File:Cball-Basque.png]] regions. We need regional identities but also a national "Iberian" identity, no matter the language or religion or anything, we must accept we are all Iberian. | Iberia is too divided. We need unity in differences between the [[File:Cball-Spain.png]][[File:Cball-Portugal.png]][[File:Cball-Catalonia.png]][[File:Cball-Basque.png]] regions. We need regional identities but also a national "Iberian" identity, no matter the language or religion or anything, we must accept we are all Iberian. | ||
= | =[[File:Fed.png]] Status of [[File:Cball-Catalonia.png]] Catalonia and [[File:Cball-Basque.png]] Basque= | ||
Iberian is not just Spanish and Portuguese. I want an EQUAL confederation of states - [[File:Cball-Spain.png]] España, [[File:Cball-Portugal.png]] Portugal, [[File:Cball-Catalonia.png]] Catalunya, [[File:Cball-Basque.png]] Euskadi. | Iberian is not just Spanish and Portuguese. I want an EQUAL confederation of states - [[File:Cball-Spain.png]] España, [[File:Cball-Portugal.png]] Portugal, [[File:Cball-Catalonia.png]] Catalunya, [[File:Cball-Basque.png]] Euskadi. | ||
==My Religion== | =[[File:Catheo.png]] Religion= | ||
==[[File:Agnostic.png]] My Personal Religion== | |||
Agnostic, I don't know if the God exists or not. I do not care much if it does or doesn't. | Agnostic, I don't know if the God exists or not. I do not care much if it does or doesn't. | ||
== | ==The 26 Points Do Not Uphold Here== | ||
National education and religion I don't 100% like except for just teaching our culture. We shouldn't enforce religion upon anybody and the church will have no influence in society, we are defined by being Iberians, not by being Catholics. What I am saying that it is a secular state. | |||
===2/5=== | =Relation= | ||
==5/5== | |||
*{{Bax}} ([[File:Altru Ego.png|link=Anarcho-Egoism]]/[[File:Enlightenment.png|link=Enlightenment]]/[[File:FreeJacobin.png|link=Jacobinism]]/[[File:DirecteddSoc.png|link=Directed Socialism]]) - Wow! Your believes are so amazing, You are combining democracy with authoritarianism. All of them seem very unique, I haven't seen thought like this. Your anti-imperialism, would that mean you disagree with Spain-Portugal unification (Added info: You dont, haha.)? (Also I found very good songs from your song list which is happy.) (5/5) | |||
*[[File:Agricoetism icon.png]] [[Agricoetism]] - Are my eyes lying to me? Amazing economics, church separation, acceptance of non-straight relationships? So amazing. Your idea of renewing the countryside sounds of interest, could help with self sufficiency. (5/5) | |||
*[[File:AntiBrazlib.png]] [[Anti-Brazilian Liberalism]] - Who made this amazing? (5/5) | |||
==4/5== | |||
*{{Alstūdism}} - (Wow you know Latin) Your evolution of ideas is very interesting, anarchist to what you are now is surprising. What is a "Folkish Syndicalist" category? I have not heard that ideal before. Is it old? Your race ideas are very agreeable, racial nationalism is a disease to nationalism. I disagree with your religion stance, nationalism should endorse freedom for all of the nation otherwise you are hurting the very people you swear your allegiance to which I think of as unnationalistic. We both think monarchism is bad, wonderous! Why exile it rather than....[[File:Troll.png]]? (4.8/5) | |||
==3/5== | |||
==2/5== | |||
*[[File:Vistula3.png]] [[Vistulism]] - I know your country is terrible but just reform it instead of abolish it. At least you hate the corporate people who oppress, just realise the importance of a state already and unite your people under common national identity. Your technological ideas are also quite strange...how would abolishing gender do anything good? Just recognise identified gender. And post-humanism, thats some real self-hatred... (2.2/5) | |||
*[[File:Dokev.png]] [[Dokevism]] - You have unique beliefs like Bax does. I like his alias "confused corporatist", it is funny. Your combination of democracy with intellectual rule is interesting, I just dont believe in democracy but rather direct technocracy as democracy would be expensive for little to no benefit. As a part of the right of the spectrum, you stand among them as the best one I've seen so far. (2.1/5) | |||
==1/5== | |||
== | ==0/5== | ||
*[[File:FASHGUY84.png]] [[Neocarlism]] - Oh my, why are you so far-right socially? Dont kill the gays, kill the rich! Kill the monarchists! Like your economics are good but why scummy monarchism and why socially far-right (dont oppress the nation you pledge to serve). Serve your people not to an execution chamber but to a good life away from the capitalist slave market. Only agreeable things are economics but that doesnt make up for your other terrible views. Not Killer Kitty tier but not good. | *[[File:FASHGUY84.png]] [[Neocarlism]] - Oh my, why are you so far-right socially? Dont kill the gays, kill the rich! Kill the monarchists! Like your economics are good but why scummy monarchism and why socially far-right (dont oppress the nation you pledge to serve). Serve your people not to an execution chamber but to a good life away from the capitalist slave market. Only agreeable things are economics but that doesnt make up for your other terrible views. Not Killer Kitty tier but not good. (0.9/5) | ||
*[[File:Timocratic Neocameralism.png]] [[Timocratic Neocameralism]] - Our ideas are obviously extremely opposed. I guess | *{{DECBism}} - Who made another Killer Kitty? At least your state wouldn't have much power...sort of a slightly improved killer kitty. But why is your favorite regime the USA? Come on. Look at these things: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra MKUltra], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre My Lai Massacre]. You are sure you look at yourself as a good human being whilst justifying them? I am talking here from human perspective, not ideological, this is messed up and it's all done by the regime you call good. Only good is you talk about Abu Ghraib Abuse. (0.5/5) | ||
*[[File:Timocratic Neocameralism.png]] [[Timocratic Neocameralism]] - Our ideas are obviously extremely opposed. I guess allowing drugs is the best thing on here. (0.3/5) | |||
*{{KK}} - Never thought an idea would have 0 positives to it...please, do better. Abandon the plague of capitalism. Serve your people like a leader should, especially one granted such power. With greater power should come greater responsibilities. The domination of other nations for gain cannot be accepting. Capitalism is a market that enslaves the people and as a leader you should prevent your people from enslavement. A leader without purpose is as valuable as the blood spilled during their deserved execution. You appear more focused on creating accounts than understanding how your ideas impact those around you. But, it's unlikely you will ever hold the power. | *{{Romcom}} - What the fuck is this? Civilisation must be improved not destroyed. At least you're an anti-capitalist and clearly know what you are speaking about. (unlike Killer Kitty [[File:Troll.png]]) (0.2/5) | ||
*{{KK}} - Never thought an idea would have 0 positives to it...please, do better. Abandon the plague of capitalism. Serve your people like a leader should, especially one granted such power. With greater power should come greater responsibilities. The domination of other nations for gain cannot be accepting. Capitalism is a market that enslaves the people and as a leader you should prevent your people from enslavement. A leader without purpose is as valuable as the blood spilled during their deserved execution. You appear more focused on creating accounts than understanding how your ideas impact those around you. But, it's unlikely you will ever hold the power. (0/5) | |||
**[[file:Brazlib.png]] - You're cool and I really apologize for everything. | |||
***[[File:Espano12.png]] - That is really original. Sure it took you hours to think of that. | |||
=Opinions on Real Life Figures= | |||
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{{Quote|Sᴄɪᴇɴᴄᴇ ᴍᴜsᴛ ʙᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ʙᴀsɪs ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄᴀʟ sᴛᴀᴛᴇ ᴏғ ғᴀsᴄɪsᴍ. Ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀɴ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ғᴜɴᴄᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ sᴛᴀᴛᴇ ɪs ʟᴀʀɢᴇʟʏ ᴛᴏ ᴋᴇᴇᴘ ᴛʜᴇ ʀɪɴɢ ᴄʟᴇᴀʀ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄɪᴀɴ. ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ sᴘᴇɴᴛ ᴏɴ ʙᴏᴛʜ sᴄɪᴇɴᴛɪғɪᴄ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄᴀʟ ʀᴇsᴇᴀʀᴄʜ ɪs ᴀʙsᴜʀᴅʟʏ ɪɴᴀᴅᴇǫᴜᴀᴛᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ғᴀʀ-sɪɢʜᴛᴇᴅ ᴘᴏʟɪᴄʏ, ɴᴏᴛ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ɪɴᴅᴜsᴛʀɪᴀʟ ᴅɪsᴄᴏᴠᴇʀʏ ᴏɴᴇ ʜᴜɴᴅʀᴇᴅ-ғᴏʟᴅ ʀᴇᴘʟᴀᴄᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ ᴇxᴘᴇɴᴅᴇᴅ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ʀᴀᴠᴀɢᴇs ᴏғ ᴅɪsᴇᴀsᴇ ᴍɪɢʜᴛ ʙᴇ ᴄᴏɴǫᴜᴇʀᴇᴅ. ᴅᴇᴍᴏᴄʀᴀᴄʏ ɪs ᴀʟᴡᴀʏs ᴘᴇɴɴʏ-ᴡɪsᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴘᴏᴜɴᴅ-ғᴏᴏʟɪsʜ. Ғᴀsᴄɪsᴍ, ɴᴏᴛ ᴏɴʟʏ ʙʏ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ ʙᴜᴛ ʙʏ ʜᴏɴᴏᴜʀ, ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴘᴏsᴇ ɪᴛs ғᴀɪᴛʜ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ sᴄɪᴇɴᴛɪsᴛ.}} | {{Quote|Sᴄɪᴇɴᴄᴇ ᴍᴜsᴛ ʙᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ʙᴀsɪs ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄᴀʟ sᴛᴀᴛᴇ ᴏғ ғᴀsᴄɪsᴍ. Ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀɴ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ғᴜɴᴄᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ sᴛᴀᴛᴇ ɪs ʟᴀʀɢᴇʟʏ ᴛᴏ ᴋᴇᴇᴘ ᴛʜᴇ ʀɪɴɢ ᴄʟᴇᴀʀ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄɪᴀɴ. ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ sᴘᴇɴᴛ ᴏɴ ʙᴏᴛʜ sᴄɪᴇɴᴛɪғɪᴄ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄᴀʟ ʀᴇsᴇᴀʀᴄʜ ɪs ᴀʙsᴜʀᴅʟʏ ɪɴᴀᴅᴇǫᴜᴀᴛᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ғᴀʀ-sɪɢʜᴛᴇᴅ ᴘᴏʟɪᴄʏ, ɴᴏᴛ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ɪɴᴅᴜsᴛʀɪᴀʟ ᴅɪsᴄᴏᴠᴇʀʏ ᴏɴᴇ ʜᴜɴᴅʀᴇᴅ-ғᴏʟᴅ ʀᴇᴘʟᴀᴄᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ ᴇxᴘᴇɴᴅᴇᴅ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ʀᴀᴠᴀɢᴇs ᴏғ ᴅɪsᴇᴀsᴇ ᴍɪɢʜᴛ ʙᴇ ᴄᴏɴǫᴜᴇʀᴇᴅ. ᴅᴇᴍᴏᴄʀᴀᴄʏ ɪs ᴀʟᴡᴀʏs ᴘᴇɴɴʏ-ᴡɪsᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴘᴏᴜɴᴅ-ғᴏᴏʟɪsʜ. Ғᴀsᴄɪsᴍ, ɴᴏᴛ ᴏɴʟʏ ʙʏ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ ʙᴜᴛ ʙʏ ʜᴏɴᴏᴜʀ, ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴘᴏsᴇ ɪᴛs ғᴀɪᴛʜ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ sᴄɪᴇɴᴛɪsᴛ.}} | ||
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Latest revision as of 08:21, 16 July 2024
The people pledge loyalty to the state. The state pledges loyalty to the people.
Espano12
The nation should not be forced by the nationalist. Rather, the nationalist should be forced by the nation.
Hi 
Killer Kitty, I still hate your existence 😈 !!!!
Nationalism
I am a nationalist. That is, I love my 
country and the people in it. Unfortunately though, we have been seperated from 
our bretheren who we fought together with for so long because of differences in monarchy. I want the people of Portugal and Spain to be cared for, that being every single civilian who respects our language and culture. My technocracy stems from nationalism - this ideal for a nation of happy people. I think nationalism is the greatest form of servitude to your people rather than the other way around. Nationalism should never be the nation serving the state but the state serving the nation.
Social Views
The people of Iberia should be able to have their freedoms if they want it. What kind of nationalist would I be if I struck down people of my nation based on personal hatred? That is why I have no problem with people being LGBTQ, different religion and also disagreeing with government, that is their right.
Economics
Influences
My economics stem from the 26-point program of the 
Falange, which I recommend people to read, it can be found here, it is a very good read. I am specifically influenced by the "ECONOMY – LABOUR – CLASS STRUGGLE" section of the book, but I am also influenced by the "LAND" section.
Structure
This is my ideal structure for an economy which serves the people.
In it, the state pledges loyalty to the people, the people pledge loyalty to the state, the state influences unions who command the firms. The firms produce items as per the requests of the unions and these items are given to the people. Any surplus or items not needed by the people is given to the state. With any money the state official has, it shall not fund its own lavish lifestyle, it shall be a citizen equal to all in all but responsibilities. Instead it will invest in funding various things such as the police, environmental repair, paying costs of production (if they are low) to help stop unemployment, it also funds education which shall teach the people. At the heart of this is to satisfy the people, who also are chosen from to lead the state, based on how suitable they are. There are many roles to create a functioning state:
Head of State
The head of state acts as the organiser of all roles meaning they have a very important task, which is why they must not be run by 
somebody not fit for the job.
- Ministers of State
Ministers of State are subordinates to the Head of State. They do crucial jobs such as paperwork/request management.
National Union Advisors
National Union Advisors are made to regulate the unions, this means making sure they are not corrupt or lazy. If a union is found of being one of the above, it shall be temporarily commanded so that it can be reformed. If a national union advisor believes a union is corrupt or lazy, they may not simply reform a union with no proof, they must issue a request to a Minister of State. National Union Advisors are hired technocratically. If a National Union Advisor, despite their expertise (as assured by the technocratic system), do not do their job sufficiently, they may be voted out by the National Union by a similar request.
Lead Minister of Education
The coordinator of all ministers of education and Associates of Education.
- Associates of Education
There shall be one Associate of Education per state and they shall carry out the tasks issues by the Lead Minister of Education. They are elected technocratically from each Minister of Education.
- Ministers of Education
There is a board of education ministers per state, varying by the size. An ideal would be 6 ministers of education per 100,000 people (rounded up). (e.g. Madrid would have 192, Barcelona would have 98)
Lead Minister of Justice
The coordinator of all ministers of justice.
- Ministers of Justice
The job of Ministers of Justice to ensure the right to fair trial for all and to ensure that judges give fair judgement.
Lead Minister of Police Regulation
The coordinator of all ministers of police regulation.
- Ministers of Police Regulation
Police are not all morally correct people who want to serve the people. Some commit horrible crimes themselves and we must make sure to combat this with its own ministry. This ministry shall play a role in the background checks of police, the managing of a "Administrated Credit System for the Police" and "Social Credit System for the Police", both of which unify to form the "Police Credit System" in which police can be both reported by the public to lose or gain points or seen by a minister to lose or gain points. The ultimate ideal is one minister of police regulation shall be in every one of Spain's municipalities. If police are found comitting acts or have a negative score for longer than 6 months, they shall be retired from service.
State
Abolition of the Monarchy
The monarchy is disgraceful and not worthy of being associated with the new state. The 
monarchy funds its lavish lifestyle off of the people and gives nothing back for it. The people should not starve whilst the monarchy lives in luxury, 
off with their head!
Iberian Policy
The interests of people of Iberian descent should be cared for by the state more than the interests of others within the state. This is because these people have a greater connection with the land of the nation. The earth of Iberian is imbued with the spirit of the Iberian people.
Asssimilation
Assimilation should be a goal of the nation, to connect the people to a unified culture. Spreading our beliefs to all people of the nation would be an ideal.
Military Service
I want compulsory military service for all men aged 18, for women it is optional. This is to ensure national integrity, strength for the people and a deterrent from people hurting each other as there would be known consequences. This military service would be 6 months long but can be extended to a maximum of 1 year for bad behavior.
Spanish Republic or 
Rebels
In the civil war, would I support the 
Second Spanish Republic or 
the Rebels? I would personally support Second Spanish Republic. This may be shocking to some as per my ideology but the Rebel front was often conservative and I don't like conservatism. I consider my economics against suppression of liberty, that being the suppression of liberty by bourgeoise and so. That means Conservatism is directly incompatibles with my ideals. Of course this does not mean I like the Second Spanish Republic, it is just the lesser of two evils. (Furthermore, Franco reinstated the monarchy which is very horrible, I hate the monarchy we have.)
New Culture
Iberia is too divided. We need unity in differences between the 
regions. We need regional identities but also a national "Iberian" identity, no matter the language or religion or anything, we must accept we are all Iberian.
Status of 
Catalonia and 
Basque
Iberian is not just Spanish and Portuguese. I want an EQUAL confederation of states - España, Portugal, Catalunya, Euskadi.
Religion
My Personal Religion
Agnostic, I don't know if the God exists or not. I do not care much if it does or doesn't.
The 26 Points Do Not Uphold Here
National education and religion I don't 100% like except for just teaching our culture. We shouldn't enforce religion upon anybody and the church will have no influence in society, we are defined by being Iberians, not by being Catholics. What I am saying that it is a secular state.
Relation
5/5
Baxism (
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) - Wow! Your believes are so amazing, You are combining democracy with authoritarianism. All of them seem very unique, I haven't seen thought like this. Your anti-imperialism, would that mean you disagree with Spain-Portugal unification (Added info: You dont, haha.)? (Also I found very good songs from your song list which is happy.) (5/5)
Agricoetism - Are my eyes lying to me? Amazing economics, church separation, acceptance of non-straight relationships? So amazing. Your idea of renewing the countryside sounds of interest, could help with self sufficiency. (5/5)
Anti-Brazilian Liberalism - Who made this amazing? (5/5)
4/5
Alstūdism - (Wow you know Latin) Your evolution of ideas is very interesting, anarchist to what you are now is surprising. What is a "Folkish Syndicalist" category? I have not heard that ideal before. Is it old? Your race ideas are very agreeable, racial nationalism is a disease to nationalism. I disagree with your religion stance, nationalism should endorse freedom for all of the nation otherwise you are hurting the very people you swear your allegiance to which I think of as unnationalistic. We both think monarchism is bad, wonderous! Why exile it rather than....
? (4.8/5)
3/5
2/5
Vistulism - I know your country is terrible but just reform it instead of abolish it. At least you hate the corporate people who oppress, just realise the importance of a state already and unite your people under common national identity. Your technological ideas are also quite strange...how would abolishing gender do anything good? Just recognise identified gender. And post-humanism, thats some real self-hatred... (2.2/5)
Dokevism - You have unique beliefs like Bax does. I like his alias "confused corporatist", it is funny. Your combination of democracy with intellectual rule is interesting, I just dont believe in democracy but rather direct technocracy as democracy would be expensive for little to no benefit. As a part of the right of the spectrum, you stand among them as the best one I've seen so far. (2.1/5)
1/5
0/5
Neocarlism - Oh my, why are you so far-right socially? Dont kill the gays, kill the rich! Kill the monarchists! Like your economics are good but why scummy monarchism and why socially far-right (dont oppress the nation you pledge to serve). Serve your people not to an execution chamber but to a good life away from the capitalist slave market. Only agreeable things are economics but that doesnt make up for your other terrible views. Not Killer Kitty tier but not good. (0.9/5)
DECBism - Who made another Killer Kitty? At least your state wouldn't have much power...sort of a slightly improved killer kitty. But why is your favorite regime the USA? Come on. Look at these things: MKUltra, My Lai Massacre. You are sure you look at yourself as a good human being whilst justifying them? I am talking here from human perspective, not ideological, this is messed up and it's all done by the regime you call good. Only good is you talk about Abu Ghraib Abuse. (0.5/5)
Timocratic Neocameralism - Our ideas are obviously extremely opposed. I guess allowing drugs is the best thing on here. (0.3/5)
Romantic Egoism 
- What the fuck is this? Civilisation must be improved not destroyed. At least you're an anti-capitalist and clearly know what you are speaking about. (unlike Killer Kitty ) (0.2/5)
Brazilian Liberalism - Never thought an idea would have 0 positives to it...please, do better. Abandon the plague of capitalism. Serve your people like a leader should, especially one granted such power. With greater power should come greater responsibilities. The domination of other nations for gain cannot be accepting. Capitalism is a market that enslaves the people and as a leader you should prevent your people from enslavement. A leader without purpose is as valuable as the blood spilled during their deserved execution. You appear more focused on creating accounts than understanding how your ideas impact those around you. But, it's unlikely you will ever hold the power. (0/5)
- - You're cool and I really apologize for everything.
- - That is really original. Sure it took you hours to think of that.
Opinions on Real Life Figures
Oswald Mosley
Within his book "100 Questions Asked and Answered", it can be seen that he fully supports the institution of monarchy, as quoted here:
ᴡʜᴀᴛ ɪs ᴛʜᴇ ᴀᴛᴛɪᴛᴜᴅᴇ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ʙ.ᴜ.ꜰ. ᴛᴏᴡᴀʀᴅs ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʀᴏᴡɴ?
ᴀʙsᴏʟᴜᴛᴇ ʟᴏʏᴀʟᴛʏ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʀᴏᴡɴ. ᴡᴇ sʜᴀʟʟ ɪɴ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏ ᴡᴀʏ ᴍᴀɪɴᴛᴀɪɴ ɪᴛs ᴅɪɢɴɪᴛʏ.
As a republican, I find the monarchy directly oppose my ideas. Despite this issue, Mosley has many ideas I agree:
ᴡᴇ ʙᴇʟɪᴇᴠᴇ ɪɴ ᴄᴏᴍᴘʟᴇᴛᴇ ʀᴇʟɪɢɪᴏᴜs ᴛᴏʟᴇʀᴀᴛɪᴏɴ. ᴛʜᴇ ғᴀsᴄɪsᴛ ᴀᴛᴛɪᴛᴜᴅᴇ ɪs ᴡᴇʟʟ sᴜᴍᴍᴀʀɪsᴇᴅ ʙʏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʜʀɪsᴛɪᴀɴ ᴘʀᴇᴄᴇᴘᴛ " ʀᴇɴᴅᴇʀ ᴜɴᴛᴏ ᴄᴀᴇsᴀʀ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛʜɪɴɢs ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴀʀᴇ ᴄᴀᴇsᴀʀ's ᴀɴᴅ ᴜɴᴛᴏ ɢᴏᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛʜɪɴɢs ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴀʀᴇ ɢᴏᴅ's." ᴡᴇ ᴀʀᴇ ᴄᴏɴᴄᴇʀɴᴇᴅ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ʙᴜsɪɴᴇss ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴀᴛɪᴏɴ, ɴᴏᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ʙᴜsɪɴᴇss ᴏғ ʀᴇʟɪɢɪᴏɴ. ɴᴏɴᴇ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ɢʀᴇᴀᴛ ʀᴇʟɪɢɪᴏɴs ᴘʀᴇᴀᴄʜ ᴛʜᴇ sᴜʙᴠᴇʀsɪᴏɴ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ sᴛᴀᴛᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇғᴏʀᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ɴᴏ ᴄᴏɴғʟɪᴄᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ғᴀsᴄɪsᴍ. ᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴏɴᴛʀᴀʀʏ ᴡᴇ ᴡᴇʟᴄᴏᴍᴇ ʀᴇʟɪɢɪᴏɴ ᴡʜɪᴄʜ ɪɴᴄᴜʟᴄᴀᴛᴇs ᴀ sᴇɴsᴇ ᴏғ sᴇʀᴠɪᴄᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴏғ sᴘɪʀɪᴛᴜᴀʟ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇs, ғᴏʀ sᴇʀᴠɪᴄᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇs ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ sᴘɪʀɪᴛ ᴀʀᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇssᴇɴᴄᴇ ᴏғ ғᴀsᴄɪsᴍ.
Ɪᴛ ɪs ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇʟɪʙᴇʀᴀᴛᴇ ᴀɪᴍ ᴏғ ғᴀsᴄɪsᴍ ᴛᴏ ʙʀɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴀɴ ᴇɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴀʀᴛʏ ɢᴀᴍᴇ ᴡʜɪᴄʜ ᴡᴇ ʙᴇʟɪᴇᴠᴇ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ʀᴜɪɴ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴀᴛɪᴏɴ. ᴡᴇ sᴜʙsᴛɪᴛᴜᴛᴇ ᴀ ɴᴇᴡ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ᴏғ ᴀᴄᴛɪᴏɴ sᴜɪᴛᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀɴ ᴀɢᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ᴏғ ᴛᴀʟᴋ ᴡʜɪᴄʜ ʙᴇʟᴏɴɢs ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴀsᴛ. Ғᴏʀ ɪɴsᴛᴀɴᴄᴇ, ᴀ ᴘᴀʀʟɪᴀᴍᴇɴᴛ ᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴜɴᴅᴇʀ ғᴀsᴄɪsᴍ ᴡɪʟʟ ʙᴇ ᴀ ᴛᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄᴀʟ ᴀɴᴅ ɴᴏᴛ ᴀ ᴘᴏʟɪᴛɪᴄᴀʟ ᴘᴀʀʟɪᴀᴍᴇɴᴛ. ᴛʜᴇ ғʀᴀɴᴄʜɪsᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʙᴇ ᴏᴄᴄᴜᴘᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ ᴀɴᴅ ɴᴏᴛ ɢᴇᴏɢʀᴀᴘʜɪᴄᴀʟ. ᴍᴇɴ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴏᴍᴇɴ ᴡɪʟʟ ᴠᴏᴛᴇ ᴀᴄᴄᴏʀᴅɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ɪɴᴅᴜsᴛʀʏ ᴏʀ ᴘʀᴏғᴇssɪᴏɴ, ᴀɴᴅ ɴᴏᴛ ᴀᴄᴄᴏʀᴅɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ʟᴏᴄᴀʟɪᴛʏ. ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡɪʟʟ ᴠᴏᴛᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴠᴇʀsᴇᴅ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʀᴏʙʟᴇᴍs ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ɪɴᴅᴜsᴛʀɪᴇs, ᴀɴᴅ ɴᴏᴛ ғᴏʀ ᴘʀᴏғᴇssɪᴏɴᴀʟ ᴘᴏʟɪᴛɪᴄɪᴀɴs. Ɪɴ sᴜᴄʜ ᴀ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ɪs ɴᴏ ᴘʟᴀᴄᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴘᴀʀᴛɪᴇs ᴀɴᴅ ғᴏʀ ᴘᴏʟɪᴛɪᴄɪᴀɴs. ᴡᴇ sʜᴀʟʟ ᴀsᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴀ ᴍᴀɴᴅᴀᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ ʙʀɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴀɴ ᴇɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴀʀᴛʏ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴀʀᴛɪᴇs. ᴡᴇ ɪɴᴠɪᴛᴇ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ᴛᴏ ᴇɴᴛᴇʀ ᴀ ɴᴇᴡ ᴄɪᴠɪʟɪsᴀᴛɪᴏɴ. ᴘᴀʀᴛɪᴇs ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴀʀᴛʏ ɢᴀᴍᴇ ʙᴇʟᴏɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏʟᴅ ᴄɪᴠɪʟɪsᴀᴛɪᴏɴ, ᴡʜɪᴄʜ ʜᴀs ғᴀɪʟᴇᴅ.
Sᴄɪᴇɴᴄᴇ ᴍᴜsᴛ ʙᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ʙᴀsɪs ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄᴀʟ sᴛᴀᴛᴇ ᴏғ ғᴀsᴄɪsᴍ. Ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀɴ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ғᴜɴᴄᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ sᴛᴀᴛᴇ ɪs ʟᴀʀɢᴇʟʏ ᴛᴏ ᴋᴇᴇᴘ ᴛʜᴇ ʀɪɴɢ ᴄʟᴇᴀʀ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄɪᴀɴ. ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ sᴘᴇɴᴛ ᴏɴ ʙᴏᴛʜ sᴄɪᴇɴᴛɪғɪᴄ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄᴀʟ ʀᴇsᴇᴀʀᴄʜ ɪs ᴀʙsᴜʀᴅʟʏ ɪɴᴀᴅᴇǫᴜᴀᴛᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ғᴀʀ-sɪɢʜᴛᴇᴅ ᴘᴏʟɪᴄʏ, ɴᴏᴛ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ɪɴᴅᴜsᴛʀɪᴀʟ ᴅɪsᴄᴏᴠᴇʀʏ ᴏɴᴇ ʜᴜɴᴅʀᴇᴅ-ғᴏʟᴅ ʀᴇᴘʟᴀᴄᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ ᴇxᴘᴇɴᴅᴇᴅ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ʀᴀᴠᴀɢᴇs ᴏғ ᴅɪsᴇᴀsᴇ ᴍɪɢʜᴛ ʙᴇ ᴄᴏɴǫᴜᴇʀᴇᴅ. ᴅᴇᴍᴏᴄʀᴀᴄʏ ɪs ᴀʟᴡᴀʏs ᴘᴇɴɴʏ-ᴡɪsᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴘᴏᴜɴᴅ-ғᴏᴏʟɪsʜ. Ғᴀsᴄɪsᴍ, ɴᴏᴛ ᴏɴʟʏ ʙʏ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ ʙᴜᴛ ʙʏ ʜᴏɴᴏᴜʀ, ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴘᴏsᴇ ɪᴛs ғᴀɪᴛʜ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ sᴄɪᴇɴᴛɪsᴛ.
Overall, I rate Oswald Mosley 7.5/10.
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