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|title=[[File:ricardosoc.png]] Ricardian Socialism
|title=[[File:ricardosoc.png]] Ricardian Socialism
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|caption="ACTUALLY LABOR IS THE SOURCE OF ALL WEALTH BECAUSE-" *wall of text*
|caption="ACTUALLY LABOR IS THE SOURCE OF ALL WEALTH BECAUSE-" *wall of text*
|influences=[[File:clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]] <br>
|aliases={{Collapse|
[[File:Utsoc.png]] [[Utopian Socialism]] <br>
Ricardianism<br>
Smithian Socialism<br>
[[File:Pmarx.png]] Proto-Marxism<br>
[[File:Riclib.png]] Riclassical Liberalism<br>
[[File:Ricnlib2.png]] Riclib<br>
[[File:Utilitarian socialism.png]] Utilitarian Socialism<br>
[[File:Clibsoc.png]] Classical Liberal Socialism<br>
Far-Left Classical Liberalism <br> [[File:Kak.png]][[File:LBubble.png]] Ricardo Milos [[File:RBubble.png]]
}}
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[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[:Category:Socialists|Socialists]]
|influences=
[[File:clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]]<br>
[[File:Utsoc.png]] [[Utopian Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Physiocracypix.png]] [[Physiocracy]]<br>
[[File:Physiocracypix.png]] [[Physiocracy]]<br>
|sub=
[[File:Neoricardosoc.png]] '''Neo-Ricardianism''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:AntiNeoclassical.png]] Anti-Neoclassical Economics
*[[File:Neomarx.png]] [[Neo-Marxism]]
*[[File:Postkeynes.png]] [[Keynesian School|Post-Keynesian School]]
}}
|variants=
|variants=
*[[File:Bernst.png]] '''Arturo Labriola Thought''' {{Collapse|
[[File:Bernst.png]] '''Arturo Labriola Thought''' {{Collapse|
**[[File:Antifash2.png]] [[Anti-Fascism]]
*[[File:Antifash2.png]] [[Anti-Fascism]]
**[[File:Nicola_Bombacci.png]] [[National Bolshevism|Bombaccism]]
*[[File:Nicola_Bombacci.png]] [[National Bolshevism|Bombaccism]]
**[[File:Leftcorp.png]] [[Corporatocracy]]
*[[File:Leftcorp.png]] [[Corporatocracy]]
**[[File:Sorelia.png]] [[National Syndicalism]] (Formerly)
*[[File:Sorelia.png]] [[National Syndicalism]] (Formerly)
**[[File:Radlib.png]] [[Radicalism]]
*[[File:Radlib.png]] [[Radicalism]]
**[[File:Bernst.png]] [[Reformist Marxism]]
*[[File:Bernst.png]] [[Reformist Marxism]]
**[[File:Synd.png]] [[Syndicalism]] (Formerly)
*[[File:Synd.png]] [[Syndicalism]] (Formerly)
}}
}}
*[[File:WilliamThompson.png]] '''William Thompson Thought''' {{Collapse|
[[File:WilliamThompson.png]] '''William Thompson Thought''' {{Collapse|
**[[File:Anticap.png]] Anti-Capitalism
*[[File:Anticap.png]] Anti-Capitalism
**[[File:Equality.png]] Egalitarianism
*[[File:Equality.png]] Egalitarianism
**[[File:Mill.png]] Millism
*[[File:Mill.png]] Millism
**[[File:Pmarx.png]] [[Marxism|Proto-Marxism]]
*[[File:Pmarx.png]] [[Marxism|Proto-Marxism]]
**[[File:Left Reformism.png]] [[Reformism]]
*[[File:Left Reformism.png]] [[Reformism]]
**[[File:SocFem.png]] [[Marxist Feminism|Socialist Feminism]]
*[[File:SocFem.png]] [[Marxist Feminism|Socialist Feminism]]
**[[File:Envi.png]] [[Environmentalism|Vegetarianism]]
*[[File:Envi.png]] [[Environmentalism|Vegetarianism]]
**[[File:Utility.png]] {{PCBA|Utilitarianism}}
*[[File:Utility.png]] {{PCBA|Utilitarianism}}
}}
|influenced={{Collapse|
[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]]<br>
[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]]<br>
[[File:Georgist.png]] [[Georgism]]<br>
[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]]<br>
[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]] (Some)
}}
}}
|influenced=[[File: Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] <br>
[[File: Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]] <br>
[[File: Georgist.png]] [[Georgism]]<br>
[[File: Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]] <br>
[[File: Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]] (Some)<br>
|theorists=
|theorists=
[[File:Cball-Commonwealth.png]] '''Commonwealth Realm''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism|Charles Hall]]  (1740-1825) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism|Charles Hall]]  (1740-1825) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:Clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism|David Ricardo]] (1772–1823) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:Clibsoc.png]] [[Classical Liberalism|David Ricardo]] (1772–1823) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:WilliamThompson.png]] [[Feminism|William Thompson]] (1775-1833) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:WilliamThompson.png]] [[Feminism|William Thompson]] (1775-1833) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:Anmark2.png]] [[Market Anarchism|Thomas Hodgskin]] (1787-1869) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:Anmark2.png]] [[Left-Wing Market Anarchism|Thomas Hodgskin]] (1787-1869) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
}}
[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Bernst.png]] [[Reformist Marxism|Arturo Labriola]] (1873-1959) [[File:Cball-Italy.png]] Italy
*[[File:Bernst.png]] [[Reformist Marxism|Arturo Labriola]] (1873-1959) [[File:Cball-Italy.png]] Italy
|likes=David Ricardo, Labor theory of value
}}
|dislikes=Subjective theory of value
|likes=
|aliases=Ricardianism<br>Smithian Socialism<br>[[File:Pmarx.png]] Proto-Marxism<br>[[File:Utilitarian socialism.png]] Utilitarian Socialism
[[File:ricardosoc.png]] David Ricardo<br>
|alignments=[[File:Leftunity.png]] [[:Category:Left Unity|LeftUnity]]<br>
Labor theory of value
[[File:Soc.png]] [[:Category:Socialists|Socialists]]}}
|dislikes=
Subjective theory of value
}}
'''Ricardian Socialism''' is an ideology that argues the Ricardian notion that labor is the source of all value, and as such labor deserves all that it produces. Rent, profit, and interest in the view of this ideology are corruptive forces of the free market, not natural outgrowths of this system. The Ricardian Socialists argue that the best way for a market society to function is one where associations of workers control the means of production, which is believed to eliminate the inherent inefficiency of a financial drain at the head of a company.  
'''Ricardian Socialism''' is an ideology that argues the Ricardian notion that labor is the source of all value, and as such labor deserves all that it produces. Rent, profit, and interest in the view of this ideology are corruptive forces of the free market, not natural outgrowths of this system. The Ricardian Socialists argue that the best way for a market society to function is one where associations of workers control the means of production, which is believed to eliminate the inherent inefficiency of a financial drain at the head of a company.  
==History==
==History==
===David Ricardo===
===David Ricardo===
===Charles Hall===
===Charles Hall===
===William Thompson===
===William Thompson===
'''William Thompson''' was an Irish philosopher and writer known as the "first Irish socialist", whose ideals influenced Karl Marx and numerous trade union movements. He was also a landowner, on which he tried to provide a good quality of life for his tenants, providing education for children, agricultural innovations, among others. After his death, his lands were donated to unions.
'''William Thompson''' was an Irish philosopher and writer known as the "first Irish socialist", whose ideals influenced Karl Marx and numerous trade union movements. He was also a landowner, on which he tried to provide a good quality of life for his tenants, providing education for children, agricultural innovations, among others. After his death, his lands were donated to unions.


He supported the French Revolution and became interested in the Enlightenment, earning him the nickname "Red Republican". He was also influenced by the utilitarianism of James Mill and, in a negative way, by Malthus and Godwin, as well as becoming familiar with Utopian Socialists. He believes in Adam Smith's theory of value, but he strongly believes in Surplus Value, a term which he created and became popular with Marx, in which he states that in capitalism, the product is worth more than the work given to it, that is, a more value.<ref>To make it easier, a hypothetical example: In a sock factory, each worker earns 10 coins for every sock made, while socks are sold for 20 coins. It would then generate the exploitation of the salaried worker.[[W:Surplus value|More detailed wikipedia page on the subject]], in addition to recommending Marx's books</ref> He claims that capitalism generates exploitation and opposes the idea of Mill and Malthus that the increase in wages would increase misery, believing it to be of a capitalist selfish nature, believing in any kind of wealth distribution schemes. He was also in favor of women's voting rights, along with Mill. Other ideals would be the concern with the increase of the population would generate in the increase of the poverty, vegetarianism, opposition to unequal wages, unlimited distribution and equal distribution.
He supported the French Revolution and became interested in the Enlightenment, earning him the nickname "Red Republican". He was also influenced by the utilitarianism of James Mill and, in a negative way, by Malthus and Godwin, as well as becoming familiar with Utopian Socialists. He believes in Adam Smith's theory of value, but he strongly believes in Surplus Value, a term which he created and became popular with Marx, in which he states that in capitalism, the product is worth more than the work given to it, that is, a more value.<ref>To make it easier, a hypothetical example: In a sock factory, each worker earns 10 coins for every sock made, while socks are sold for 20 coins. It would then generate the exploitation of the salaried worker.[[W:Surplus value|More detailed Wikipedia page on the subject]], in addition to recommending Marx's books</ref> He claims that capitalism generates exploitation and opposes the idea of Mill and Malthus that the increase in wages would increase misery, believing it to be of a capitalist selfish nature, believing in any kind of wealth distribution schemes. He was also in favor of women's voting rights, along with Mill. Other ideals would be the concern with the increase of the population would generate in the increase of the poverty, vegetarianism, opposition to unequal wages, unlimited distribution and equal distribution.


===Thomas Hodgskin===
===Thomas Hodgskin===
==How to Draw==
==How to Draw==
{{Flag|Ricardosoc_flag.svg}}
{{Flag|Ricardosoc_flag.svg}}


==Relationships==
==Relationships==
===Friends===
===Friends===
*[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]] - Proudhon, we have some disagreements, your usufruct-based infrastructure is a little shortsighted, but you know I love you!
*[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]] - Proudhon, we have some disagreements, your usufruct-based infrastructure is a little shortsighted, but you know I love you!
*[[File: Georgist.png]] [[Georgism]] - See, this is my kind of capitalism. Even if you're still a little top-heavy with the wealth, you do eliminate many of the perversions of the free market.
*[[File:Georgist.png]] [[Georgism]] - See, this is my kind of capitalism. Even if you're still a little top-heavy with the wealth, you do eliminate many of the perversions of the free market.


===Frenemies===
===Frenemies===
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Son, I still don't quite see why you lost the market, there are positive aspects to a competitive economy. That said, you have plenty of good ideas yourself, and more than a few of those came from me.
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Son, I still don't quite see why you lost the market, there are positive aspects to a competitive economy. That said, you have plenty of good ideas yourself, and more than a few of those came from me.
*[[file:clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]] - The intellectual environment I grew out of, but don't you recognize the exploitative and inefficient nature of capitalism?
*[[File:clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]] - The intellectual environment I grew out of, but don't you recognize the exploitative and inefficient nature of capitalism?


===Enemies===
===Enemies===
*[[File:Plutocrat.png]] [[Plutocracy]] - You're an economic drain, siphoning wealth away from the workers and contributing nothing valuable to the systems you control.  
*[[File:Plutocrat.png]] [[Plutocracy]] - You're an economic drain, siphoning wealth away from the workers and contributing nothing valuable to the systems you control.  
*[[File:Merc.png]] [[Mercantilism]] - Oh good lord, if it wasn't enough to exploit workers at home, you've decided to throw a little imperialism in to exploit the rest of the world, and eliminate the one good part of capitalism, free trade. I really hope capitalists in the future don't end up learning from you and exploiting foreign labor and consumption, impoverishing and enslaving the future equivalent of a colonial citizen.
*[[File:Merc.png]] [[Mercantilism]] - Oh good lord, if it wasn't enough to exploit workers at home, you've decided to throw a little imperialism in to exploit the rest of the world, and eliminate the one good part of capitalism, free trade. I really hope capitalists in the future don't end up learning from you and exploiting foreign labor and consumption, impoverishing and enslaving the future equivalent of a colonial citizen .


==Further information==
==Further information==
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Latest revision as of 21:45, 15 September 2024

Ricardian Socialism is an ideology that argues the Ricardian notion that labor is the source of all value, and as such labor deserves all that it produces. Rent, profit, and interest in the view of this ideology are corruptive forces of the free market, not natural outgrowths of this system. The Ricardian Socialists argue that the best way for a market society to function is one where associations of workers control the means of production, which is believed to eliminate the inherent inefficiency of a financial drain at the head of a company.

History

David Ricardo

Charles Hall

William Thompson

William Thompson was an Irish philosopher and writer known as the "first Irish socialist", whose ideals influenced Karl Marx and numerous trade union movements. He was also a landowner, on which he tried to provide a good quality of life for his tenants, providing education for children, agricultural innovations, among others. After his death, his lands were donated to unions.

He supported the French Revolution and became interested in the Enlightenment, earning him the nickname "Red Republican". He was also influenced by the utilitarianism of James Mill and, in a negative way, by Malthus and Godwin, as well as becoming familiar with Utopian Socialists. He believes in Adam Smith's theory of value, but he strongly believes in Surplus Value, a term which he created and became popular with Marx, in which he states that in capitalism, the product is worth more than the work given to it, that is, a more value.[1] He claims that capitalism generates exploitation and opposes the idea of Mill and Malthus that the increase in wages would increase misery, believing it to be of a capitalist selfish nature, believing in any kind of wealth distribution schemes. He was also in favor of women's voting rights, along with Mill. Other ideals would be the concern with the increase of the population would generate in the increase of the poverty, vegetarianism, opposition to unequal wages, unlimited distribution and equal distribution.

Thomas Hodgskin

How to Draw

Flag of Ricardian Socialism


Relationships

Friends

  • Mutualism - Proudhon, we have some disagreements, your usufruct-based infrastructure is a little shortsighted, but you know I love you!
  • Georgism - See, this is my kind of capitalism. Even if you're still a little top-heavy with the wealth, you do eliminate many of the perversions of the free market.

Frenemies

  • Marxism - Son, I still don't quite see why you lost the market, there are positive aspects to a competitive economy. That said, you have plenty of good ideas yourself, and more than a few of those came from me.
  • Classical Liberalism - The intellectual environment I grew out of, but don't you recognize the exploitative and inefficient nature of capitalism?

Enemies

  • Plutocracy - You're an economic drain, siphoning wealth away from the workers and contributing nothing valuable to the systems you control.
  • Mercantilism - Oh good lord, if it wasn't enough to exploit workers at home, you've decided to throw a little imperialism in to exploit the rest of the world, and eliminate the one good part of capitalism, free trade. I really hope capitalists in the future don't end up learning from you and exploiting foreign labor and consumption, impoverishing and enslaving the future equivalent of a colonial citizen .

Further information

Gallery

Navigation

  1. To make it easier, a hypothetical example: In a sock factory, each worker earns 10 coins for every sock made, while socks are sold for 20 coins. It would then generate the exploitation of the salaried worker.More detailed Wikipedia page on the subject, in addition to recommending Marx's books

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