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|caption = "כרגע אנחנו אבודים. שכחנו את השורשים שלנו. ענחנו חייבים לעבוד ביחד ולהגן על ארץ ישראל"
|caption = "כרגע אנחנו אבודים. שכחנו את השורשים שלנו. ענחנו חייבים לעבוד ביחד ולהגן על ארץ ישראל"
|aliases = ''Feel free to add your own''
|aliases = ''Feel free to add your own''


[[file:zio.png]] Zionist
[[file:zio.png]] Zionist <br>
 
[[File:OrdoLibMarkSoc.png]] [[File:LBubble.png]] [[File:JewRmando.png]] Literally me but Jewish [[File:RBubble.png]] <br>
[[File:Revfris3.png]] [[File:LBubble.png]] [[File:Antizion.png]] So, not Zionism? [[File:RBubble.png]] <br>
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[[file:lib.png]] Liberal
*[[file:lib.png]] Liberal
[[file:Marketsoc.png]] Market Socialism
*[[file:Marketsoc.png]] Market Socialism
[[file:FreeCol.png]] Collectivism
*[[file:FreeCol.png]] Collectivism
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Closest match: [[Centrism]]
Closest match: [[Centrism]]


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'''{{Quote|quote="Pessimism is a luxury that a Jew can never allow himself."|speaker=[[File:Zio.png]] Golda Meir}}
'''{{Quote|quote="Pessimism is a luxury that a Jew can never allow himself."|speaker=[[File:Zio.png]] Golda Meir}}
{{MSZ}} is an [[File:altcentr.png]] Economically Syncretic [[File:civilib.png]] Civically Liberal [[File:prgess.png]] Culturally Left-Wing [[File:radcent.png]] [https://polcompball.wiki/wiki/Radical_Centrism Radical Centrist] and [[file:lib.png]] [[Liberalism|Liberal wing]] of [[File:zio.png]] [[Zionism]], that represents the ideology of [[LocalLiberal|sedapS]]. It is heavily influenced by [[file:3way.png]] Third-Way ideology, as it deems it to be the only viable solution to the conflict in the Middle East. It advocates for a two-state solution and wants to establish a lasting peace in Israel in order to help its people get back on their feet and recover the state from the ultraorthodox coalition. This is because it regards religion of all sorts to be a key factor to the instability in the Middle East, specifically [https://polcompball.wiki/wiki/Jihadism Radical Islam] and [https://polcompball.wiki/wiki/Kahanism Radical Religious Zionism] - both of which support the extermination of the other, and therefore wishes to work with western powers to completely de-radicalise the Middle East in return for the establishment of a regional trade union and the recognition of the State of Israel by all of its members. It also advocates for reforms on healthcare,The Knesset and societal attitudes through the education system.  
{{MSZ}} is an [[File:altcentr.png]] Economically Syncretic [[File:civilib.png]] Civically Liberal [[File:prgess.png]] Culturally Left-Wing [[File:radcent.png]] [https://polcompball.wiki/wiki/Radical_Centrism Radical Centrist] and [[file:lib.png]] [[Liberalism|Liberal wing]] of [[File:zio.png]] [[Zionism]], that represents the ideology of [[LocalLiberal]]. It is heavily influenced by [[file:3way.png]] Third-Way ideology, as it deems it to be the only viable solution to the conflict in the Middle East. It advocates for a two-state solution and wants to establish a lasting peace in Israel in order to help its people get back on their feet and recover the state from the ultraorthodox coalition. This is because it regards religion of all sorts to be a key factor to the instability in the Middle East, specifically [https://polcompball.wiki/wiki/Jihadism Radical Islam] and [https://polcompball.wiki/wiki/Kahanism Radical Religious Zionism] - both of which support the extermination of the other, and therefore wishes to work with western powers to completely de-radicalise the Middle East in return for the establishment of a regional trade union and the recognition of the State of Israel by all of its members. It also advocates for reforms on healthcare,The Knesset and societal attitudes through the education system.  


====My Political Journey====
====My Political Journey====
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*Dec 2023 - ([[File:modseczio.png]]/[[File:FreeCol.png]]/[[File:necon.png]]/[[File:Marketsoc.png]]/[[File:3way.png]])
*Mar 2024 - ([[file:labzion.png]]/[[File:progress.png]]/[[File:Civnat.png]]/[[File:Marketsoc.png]]/[[File:3way.png]])


=Beliefs=
=Beliefs=
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***[[file:soc.png]] 45% Inheritance tax  
***[[file:soc.png]] 45% Inheritance tax  
*** [[File:Religious.png]] 10% Place of Worship tax
*** [[File:Religious.png]] 10% Place of Worship tax
*** [[File:welf.png]] Medical tax (₪23 a month for GP + % of annual salary at the end of each financial year)
*** [[File:welf.png]] Medical tax (₪50 a month for GP + % of annual salary at the end of each financial year)
***[[File:protect.png]] Tariffs (on imports)
***[[File:protect.png]] Tariffs (on imports)
***[[File:LVT.png]] Land Value Tax
***[[File:LVT.png]] Land Value Tax
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==The Middle East | המזרח התיכון==
==The Middle East | המזרח התיכון==
{{MSZ}} believes that as the only democratic state in the Middle East, it is up to Israel to work towards establishing peace within the Middle East.  
{{MSZ}} believes that as the only democratic state in the Middle East, it is up to Israel to work towards establishing peace within the Middle East.  
 
===Iran===
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|-|Iran=
One of the key reasons the Middle East is in a hardship is becaust of Iran's islamic regime. {{MSZ}} believes that the collapse of the Islamic Regime is a vital factor to establishing peace within the region. It therefore wishes to:
One of the key reasons the Middle East is in a hardship is becaust of Iran's islamic regime. {{MSZ}} believes that the collapse of the Islamic Regime is a vital factor to establishing peace within the region. It therefore wishes to:
**Work with [[file:Cball-NATO.png]] [[file:Cball-US.png]] [[file:Cball-UK.png]] Western Powers to overthrow its regime
**Work with [[file:Cball-NATO.png]] [[file:Cball-US.png]] [[file:Cball-UK.png]] Western Powers to overthrow its regime
**Weaken its sphere of influence.
**Weaken its sphere of influence.
This can only be done by destroying its proxies (Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis etc...) To ensure that Israel and Palestine are not at risk during this operation.
This can only be done by destroying its proxies (Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis etc...) To ensure that Israel and Palestine are not at risk during this operation.
|-|Lebanon=
===Lebanon===
Another issue is the Hezbollah terrorist group in Lebanon. A third Lebanon war would be catastrophic, and so {{MSZ}} believes that Lebanese groups must be funded in order to gain support from the lebanese people in order to establish a stable government within Lebanon, in hopes to completely eradicate Hezbollah. However, a war is inevitable as Iran would likely increase funding to Hezbollah in order to ensure it is not overthrown, therefore a war must begin within the country at first, then externally from Israel and Palestine (with the help of Western troops too). The hopes are to restore democracy in Lebanon and restore cooperation between Lebanon and Israel.
Another issue is the Hezbollah terrorist group in Lebanon. A third Lebanon war would be catastrophic, and so {{MSZ}} believes that Lebanese groups must be funded in order to gain support from the lebanese people in order to establish a stable government within Lebanon, in hopes to completely eradicate Hezbollah. However, a war is inevitable as Iran would likely increase funding to Hezbollah in order to ensure it is not overthrown, therefore a war must begin within the country at first, then externally from Israel and Palestine (with the help of Western troops too). The hopes are to restore democracy in Lebanon and restore cooperation between Lebanon and Israel.
|-|Syria=
===Syria===
The current civil war in Syria is a brutal and complex one. {{MSZ}} believes that at its current state, peace is near-impossible, even with intervention. It believes that the easiest way to establish peace is to remove the proxies (Iran and Russia) from the image. This is, again, a complicated one and therefore not worth risking a world war breaking out.
The current civil war in Syria is a brutal and complex one. {{MSZ}} believes that at its current state, peace is near-impossible, even with intervention. It believes that the easiest way to establish peace is to remove the proxies (Iran and Russia) from the image. This is, again, a complicated one and therefore not worth risking a world war breaking out.
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{{MSZ}} is also heavily critical of the Assad Regime and supports a free kurdistan
 
=Relations=
=Relations=
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*[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] Illyrian Model - The best Market Socialism model <3
*[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] Illyrian Model - The best Market Socialism model <3
*[[File:labzion.png]] Labour Zionism - You built my country, and you are still a major drive to the Meretz party, so I love you <3
*[[File:labzion.png]] Labour Zionism - You built my country, and you are still a major drive to the Meretz party, so I love you <3
*[[File:FreeCol.png]] Collectivism - You helped build Israel! and yes, we ''should'' be working together for the sake of our nation!
*[[File:zio.png]] Zionism - Return to the homeland! (love you dad)
*[[File:zio.png]] Zionism - Return to the homeland! (love you dad)
*[[File:zio.png]] [[File:Cball-Palestine.png]] Two-state solution - I recognize you both and support the 1967 borders. Lets make it happen!
*[[File:zio.png]] [[File:Cball-Palestine.png]] Two-state solution - I recognize you both and support the 1967 borders. Lets make it happen!
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*[[File:Mordecai.png]] [[Mordecaism]] - Whilst we may disagree on foreign policy, you are overall a based liberal!
*[[File:Mordecai.png]] [[Mordecaism]] - Whilst we may disagree on foreign policy, you are overall a based liberal!
*{{DECBism}} - My American Twin! Everything you say sounds amazing and you hate the Likud and Otzma Yehudit, which means you are a true liberal Zionist and not a Kahanist in disguise!  Lets bring Bibi down together!
*{{DECBism}} - My American Twin! Everything you say sounds amazing and you hate the Likud and Otzma Yehudit, which means you are a true liberal Zionist and not a Kahanist in disguise!  Lets bring Bibi down together!
*{{Armando}} - Based Market Socialist! You and me are pretty much the same! If my ideology didn't exist, I would most likely copy & paste your one and add a section on being a Zionist (at least you support a two-state solution!) BASED BASED BASED!
*[[file:jingoism.png]] Curlyism - I like your political thinking, you are based!
==קרובי משפחה רחוקים==
==קרובי משפחה רחוקים==
*[[File:Timocratic_Neocameralism.png]] [[Timocratic Neocameralism]] - You support free markets, are a liberal and love your country. But whats with the Middle Age inspired law system?
*[[File:Timocratic_Neocameralism.png]] [[Timocratic Neocameralism]] - You support free markets, are a liberal and love your country. But whats with the Middle Age inspired law system?
*{{Democratic Lehianism}} - A fellow Zionist and Market Socialist! I agree that the spread of Islam is a worrying one, which is why a Palestinian state should be established to provide a country for them to live in. I disagree with a strong religious state as the foundation of Zionism is to be a free nation in Eretz Yisrael, not an authoritarian one. (Drop the Kahanism, its a terrorist ideology).
*{{Democratic Lehianism}} - A fellow Zionist and Market Socialist! I agree that the spread of Islam is a worrying one, which is why a Palestinian state should be established to provide a country for them to live in. I disagree with a strong religious state as the foundation of Zionism is to be a free nation in Eretz Yisrael, not an authoritarian one. (Drop the Kahanism, its a terrorist ideology).
*[[File:Schuma-alt.png]] [[Schumacherianism]] - I agree with most of your views on liberty and hate for islamism. Lets keep it like that :D
==אויבים==
==אויבים==
*[[File:hoodism.png]] [[Hoodism]] - Anarcho-communist, revolutionary, anarchist and more anarchism. No thanks.
*[[File:hoodism.png]] [[Hoodism]] - Anarcho-communist, revolutionary, anarchist and more anarchism. No thanks.
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*{{Romcom}} - I don't support anarchism and you are anti-civilisation. Only good thing about you is you are a mutualist, which is close enough to my market socialism.  
*{{Romcom}} - I don't support anarchism and you are anti-civilisation. Only good thing about you is you are a mutualist, which is close enough to my market socialism.  
*{{Bax}} - Communist and anti-zionist... Do I need to say more?
*{{Bax}} - Communist and anti-zionist... Do I need to say more?
*[[File:Dokev.png]] {{Whitelink|Dokevism}} {{Bubble| But dad, why can't we just give more money to everyone?}}
*[[File:NBrioball.png]] [[N.Brioism]] - Keep reading left-wing propaganda if it really makes you happier. But at least drop the 'kill all jews!' and 'Israel is an apartheid state' stance.
*[[File:DistribReact.png]] [[Distributist Reactionaryism]] - How can you be a reactionary man... the enlightenment happened way before you were even thought of.
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*{{MSZ}} - (75)
*[[File:Timocratic_Neocameralism.png]] [[Timocratic Neocameralism]] - (35)
*[[File:Timocratic_Neocameralism.png]] [[Timocratic Neocameralism]] - (35)
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*{{HEW thought}} - (30)
*{{RevFris}} - (35)
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"Pessimism is a luxury that a Jew can never allow himself."


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My Political Journey

Beliefs

As a liberal, Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination believes in the principle liberal values:

- From the Liberalism page

Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destinationReforms | רפורמותError creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination

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Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Believes in a set of healthcare reforms to improve its accessibility and efficiency. Such reforms include:

  • Free Healthcare, similar to that of the NHS
  • Improve the pay of key workers
  • Build more hospitals to make sure that there is one accessible to anyone within 30 minutes.

The Knesset | הכנסת

'Modern Secular Zionism believes that the AMS voting system should be adopted in Israel, along with the separations of districts with each one having their own representatives. This way, areas predominantly populated by Arabs will have a higher chance of representing the Arab population in its district and so on.

Diagram of Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination proposed political system

Education | חינוך

Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination believes that liberal values should be taught in education, as well as the promotion of coexistence with the Palestinians. Free university education must be given to those who served in the army

Economy | כלכלה

Fundamentals | יסודות

Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination also believes in a Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Socialist Liberal Democracy Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination:

    • There must be a Market Socialist economy with the Illyrian model in place

Private property | רכוש פרטי

Private property is a necessity in any economy. However, the only exception in private property would be in a kibbutz (that chooses to use socialist principles) where the farmland is owned collectively by all its residents.

Taxation | מיסוי

These are the specific taxes that Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination believes are relevant in modern Israeli society:

The Palestinian issue | בעיאת הפלסטינאיים

Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination believes that both the Israeli side and the Palestinian side are at fault and therefore both must need to change their ways before a two-state solution can take place.

  • Israeli settlers must back out of the west bank
    • there will be a referrendum held for arabs in East Jerusalem on whether they would want to live under Israeli governance or Palestinian governance.
  • Israelis and Palestinians will be granted access to religious sites of their faith (Christianity, Judaism or Islam).
  • Both Hamas and Fatah must be removed from power as neither powers are cooperative.
    • A new administration approved by both the President and the Knesset will be put in as a replacement to govern the Palestinian people.
      • This will ensure cooperation between the two powers.
  • Palestinians who wish to become Israeli citizens must go through a background check before being granted an Israeli citizenship and vice versa
    • Israeli citizens will be allowed to visit Palestinian territories and vice versa
      • It is important to note that unless a dual citizenship is held, neither side will be allowed to settle in the opposite territory.
  • Both governments will work closely to maintain peace amongst their nations.

Foreign Policy | מדיניות חוץ

Due to its heavy influence of Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Third-way politics, Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination takes an Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Interventionist stance towards peace-making, with a policy of Peace-Making in favour of Human rights Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination encourages trade deals that increase worker's rights in foreign countries.

The Middle East | המזרח התיכון

Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination believes that as the only democratic state in the Middle East, it is up to Israel to work towards establishing peace within the Middle East.

Iran

One of the key reasons the Middle East is in a hardship is becaust of Iran's islamic regime. Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination believes that the collapse of the Islamic Regime is a vital factor to establishing peace within the region. It therefore wishes to:

This can only be done by destroying its proxies (Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis etc...) To ensure that Israel and Palestine are not at risk during this operation.

Lebanon

Another issue is the Hezbollah terrorist group in Lebanon. A third Lebanon war would be catastrophic, and so Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination believes that Lebanese groups must be funded in order to gain support from the lebanese people in order to establish a stable government within Lebanon, in hopes to completely eradicate Hezbollah. However, a war is inevitable as Iran would likely increase funding to Hezbollah in order to ensure it is not overthrown, therefore a war must begin within the country at first, then externally from Israel and Palestine (with the help of Western troops too). The hopes are to restore democracy in Lebanon and restore cooperation between Lebanon and Israel.

Syria

The current civil war in Syria is a brutal and complex one. Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination believes that at its current state, peace is near-impossible, even with intervention. It believes that the easiest way to establish peace is to remove the proxies (Iran and Russia) from the image. This is, again, a complicated one and therefore not worth risking a world war breaking out. Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Modern Secular Zionism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination is also heavily critical of the Assad Regime and supports a free kurdistan

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  • Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Brazilian Liberalism - My based Brazilian Zionist Brother!
  • Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Mordecaism - Whilst we may disagree on foreign policy, you are overall a based liberal!
  • Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination DECBism - My American Twin! Everything you say sounds amazing and you hate the Likud and Otzma Yehudit, which means you are a true liberal Zionist and not a Kahanist in disguise! Lets bring Bibi down together!
  • Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Armandonian Liberalism Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination - Based Market Socialist! You and me are pretty much the same! If my ideology didn't exist, I would most likely copy & paste your one and add a section on being a Zionist (at least you support a two-state solution!) BASED BASED BASED!
  • Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination Curlyism - I like your political thinking, you are based!
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