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What happens when you cross 
Leninism, 
Council Communism and 
Internationalist Communism? You get this. Vanguardism with Council Communism. Crazy ass shit.
I don't like Marxist-Leninists.
Summarized Beliefs
Government 
council communism. congress of soviets. soviet democracy. pretty self-explanatory.
Economics
bottom up system. not necessarily decentralized planning, but it could perhaps be seen as such.
Diplomacy
giga proletarian annihilation of classes, nations, and countries
Technology & Nature 
Who says you can't combine ecologism with computers and science?
Culture 
cultural revolution. blah blah.
you will read theory, inshallah
Relationships
Parents
Family
Council Communism - My relationship with you is complicated; probably because of my quite heterodox interpretations of councilism. I would very much like to say that I believe that a proletarian revolution can only be organized through a vanguard party, but at the same time I recognize and believe that it is only through the will of the proletariat itself, organizing itself through things like... councils! Or soviets.
Bolshevik-Leninism - You definitely get an unfair bad rep, paraded around mostly by "Marxist"-"Leninists" who gobble up whatever Stalin and the degenerated workers' party spewed out to try and justify his power grab. Do I agree with Trotsky on a lot of things? Yes. Would I consider myself a Trotskyist? I'd consider myself somewhat close to it. Just... not close enough to put you in the family section. Sorry.
Luxemburgism - I do quite like you. You're alright. Just please stop calling Lenin a 
Anarcho-Syndicalist... whatever that is supposed to imply.
Internationalist Communism - Mean book nerds. But you did influence me.- Proletarian Internationalism - What communist movement can claim to be truly communist if it focuses solely on itself? The workers of the world will break off their chains one day.
Friends
Libertarian Marxism - I mean- you're alright... there's nothing necessarily wrong with seeing Marxism from a more libertarian perspective. But like- come on. Some of you are way too close to anarchism for comfort.
Neutral
Centrist Marxism - I don't know how to feel about you. I don't think you're as bad as people say you are but... you're still bad. Very much bad.
lumpenproletariat
Marxism-Leninism - Marxism-Leninism has been, without a doubt, the most damaging thing to the proletarian movement in all of its history. Even more than social democracy- even more than Bernstein... just straight up worse than socdems.
Stalinism - do not tell stalinists who scream about revisionism and anti-reformism that stalin was a reformist who forced communist movements to collaborate with liberals (fascists), authored programs for communist parties like the communist party of great britain which explicitly denounced revolutionary activity in favor of reformism, denied proletarian revolution in france because he thought "we would win by elections" and also that he scrapped an entire ready-to-go communist cabinet for austria in favor of a would-be nazi collaborator socdem who got his ass rejected by the nazis because he was a socdem
Mao Zedong Thought - Maoism is Anti-Communism. You do have a few bright ideas, though. Now fuck off.
Bernsteinism - I take my comment back. You still suck. You are still absolutely horrible, but I don't think you fucked up as badly as ^ he did.
Social Democracy - Abandoned historical and dialectical materialism in favor of sucking up to capitalism and trying to 'fix it', as if though it isn't functioning as intended.
Democratic Socialism - Not as guilty of appalling revisionism as 
Succdem and Bernstein up here, but most of you are still pretty revisionist... and most of you have no idea what 'socialism' or 'Marxism' even means.
Market Socialism - We should, as a matter of fact, not continue the same economic principles that capitalism operates under.
Anarcho-Communism (and 
Anarchism in general) - Anarchists by matter of principle do not oppose fascism, statism, or any other self-identified form of unrighteous authority for the purpose of constructing a better world without them, but for their own self-gain. They are egoists; and they are egoists of the most disgusting order, attempting to mask themselves as selfless anti-fascists when in reality their only opposition to fascism is the fact that it strengthens the state rather than weakens it.
Liberalism - Be quiet.
Liberal Socialism - Marx is crying from his grave.
the big bads
You already know what this section would be referring to, so rather than providing commentary which has been given time and time again, have a list of icons instead.
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Dick's Sea Socialist - You're not that bad. I've seen way worse on this wiki... I should know. But like, man, come on. You were so close. You had an understanding of the need to sweep the slate clean and create a new culture, you understood that only on a global scale can communism be achieved... Then you went off and became an egoist?
How many times I gotta say it. Just because it sounds cool doesn't mean it is. It's revisionist. Communism is incompatible with Egoism. You get 2 points off for that. Another point off for being obsesssed with Dixie or whatever. 7/10.
- Venatrixism how is Egoist Communist, Revisionist and Incompatible. Engels literally said this once "We are communists out of egoism also, and it is out of egoism that we wish to be human beings, not mere individuals."[1]
- This is a misunderstanding of what Engels is referring to here. If we must understand the actual context of the quote, we must do a lot further reading.
- This is a misunderstanding of what Engels is referring to here. If we must understand the actual context of the quote, we must do a lot further reading.
- Venatrixism how is Egoist Communist, Revisionist and Incompatible. Engels literally said this once "We are communists out of egoism also, and it is out of egoism that we wish to be human beings, not mere individuals."[1]
... This egoism is simply the essence of present society and present man brought to consciousness, the ultimate that can be said against us by present society, the culmination of all the theory intrinsic to the prevailing stupidity. But that's precisely what makes the thing important, more important than Hess, for one, holds it to be. We must not simply cast it aside, but rather use it as the perfect expression of present-day folly and, while inverting it, continue to build on it. This egoism is taken to such a pitch, it is so absurd and at the same time so self-aware, that it cannot maintain itself even for an instant in its one-sidedness, but must immediately change into communism. In the first place it's a simple matter to prove to Stirner that his egoistic man is bound to become communist out of sheer egoism.
... But we must also adopt such truth as there is in the principle. And it is certainly true that we must first make a cause our own, egoistic cause, before we can do anything to further it – and hence that in this sense, irrespective of any eventual material aspirations, we are communists out of egoism also, and it is out of egoism that we wish to be human beings, not mere individuals. Or to put it another way. Stirner is right in rejecting Feuerbach's ‘man’, or at least the ‘man’ of Das Wesen des Christentums. [13] Feuerbach deduces his ‘man’ from God, it is from God that he arrives at ‘man’, and hence ‘man’ is crowned with a theological halo of abstraction. The true way to arrive at ‘man’ is the other way about. We must take our departure from the Ego, the empirical, flesh-and-blood individual, if we are not, like Stirner, to remain stuck at this point but rather proceed to raise ourselves to ‘man’. ‘man’ will always remain a wraith so long as his basis is not empirical man.
This passage is very much often seen as proof that Engels or even Marx subscribed to the idea that communism is Egoistic; or that it is even compatible with such the ideology. Yet doing the slightest bit of further reading proves the exact opposite. Engels states directly that rather than embracing the Ego that we must 'depart' from it; to discard it in favor of 'man'; empirical man. This is further backed by his previous statement in which he states that it is out of egoism which [sic] "we wish to be human beings, not mere individuals". In other words, Engels here is advocating for evolving past the idea of the individual; as lone organism which acts purely of his own ego, and towards the idea of human beings; the empirical man, humanity as a whole.
The term 'egoism' in this context does not refer to the Egoism of Stirner but simply the act of self-interest. It is, indeed, in Engel's self-interest (and thus out of egoism) that he is a communist and that he wishes to be a human being rather than a simple 'individual'. Those who unironically believe in what they believe in believe in it as such because it will one way or another benefit their self-interest. The important thing to note here is that Engels states that this is not the reason why he is a communist. He states that this is irrespective of material aspirations; of the basis for a communist society.
We again cannot ignore the fact that throughout this entire article, Engels is shitting on Stirner's concept of the ego; pointing out its contradictions and absurdities. He points out that the idea that man is selfish and driven only by Ego is stupid and instead points out that 'the human heart is of itself, from the very outset, unselfish and self-sacrificing'. This is what he is referring to by 'one-sidedness'; the one-sidedness of Egoism which believes there to only be the Ego and nothing else.
Engels seeks to use the idea of egoism to prove a point; that it doesn't work, that under its own absurdities and contradictions that its adherents are more likely to turn to communism, a decidedly anti-egoist (or perhaps post-egoist) than to continue as an egoist. He advocates not for an embracement of the ego or of egoism to reinforce it, but rather to destroy it; to destroy the idea of the individual in favor of the empirical Man, not separate from society, not disconnected from its goals, but united with it while still maintaining his own goals. It is in the self-interest of the Ego to destroy itself. That is the point he is making.
Even if we were to make the rather stretchable conclusion that Engels is not denouncing egoism but instead supporting it, he is certainly not advocating for the nihilistic, purely individualistic and immaterial worldview of Stirner. We therefore can make the conclusion that no, communism is not compatible with egoism. Rather, the conclusion to be made is that out of egoism, the idea of the 'Ego' will abolish itself.
- Venatrixism - fair enough I have reverted back to being just a individualist marxist
- Engels is literally advocating for the abolition of the individual in favor of the empirical 'man'. You have changed nothing.
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Neo-Anbax - Seems to be confused. Claims to be an egoist and an individualist but also a collectivist. Claims to be an Egoist but is an authoritarian. Claims to be a nihilist but is also an optimist.
I've said enough on Egoists for you to know how I feel about Egoists and the lot. Not much for me to say on that.
Neo-Neo-Baxism - What do I have to say about you? You're the exact same as before, you just cleaned up your article and supposedly removed a couple of its contradictions.
No more larping. Bad. *swats*. And Contrarianism doesn't mean 'be contradictory' it means 'you're opposed to ruling/prevailing political ideologies'.
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1929ism -
brazil - Brazillian. Instantly sent to the 6th circle of hell.
