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{{Ideology|family = [[File: Long.png]] [[Longism]] (Cousin who wants everyone to be the king) <br>
{{Ideology
[[File: Monarch.png]] [[Monarchism]] (father) <br>
|themecolor = #CD2A21
[[File: Soc.png]] [[Socialism]] (Mother) <br>
|textcolor = #832D84
[[File: Distributist.png]] [[Distributism]] (Cousin) <br>
|title = [[File:Monsoc.png]] Monarcho-Socialism
[[File: Monsynd.png]] [[Monarcho-Syndicalism]] (Brother)<br>|gangs = MonSoc Gang|aliases = The Red King
|image = Monsocball v2.png
Volkskoning|caption1 = KARL MONARX! KARL MONARX!|title1 = [[File: Moncom.png]] Monarcho-Socialism|quadrant(s) = Left Unity
|aliases =  Red Monarch<br><s>[[File:Music.png]] King Crimson</s><br>Volkskönig<br>
|image1 = <gallery>
[[File:SocMon.png]] Socialist Monarchism<br> Whatever Grenada was doing during 1979–1983<br>Left-Monarchism<br><s>Left-Cousin fucker</s><br>
MonSoc_Standard.png|Standard
[[File:Paleoegyptianism-icon.png]] Paleoegyptianism <br> [[File:Mladorossi.png]] [[Mladorossism|Tsarist Bolshevism]]<br>
MonSoc Redrawn.png|Alternative
Karl Monarx<br>
</gallery>}}'''Monarcho-Socialism''', often shortened to '''MonSocball''', despite how he is often portrait he doesn't support the king being the leader of the revolution in most cases, instead preferring to have the monarch as the constitutional head of state while the socialist government does the politicking. He is economically left, civilly centrist and culturally variable.
Monarcho-Communism (some)<br>
[[File:Monarcho-Juche.png]] Juche without the mask (debatably)<br>3rd Modulation of the Right (According to Gustavo Bueno and his followers)<br>
|caption = "Workers of the world, embrace monarchy!"
|alignments = [[File:Authleft.png]] [[:Category:Authoritarian Left|AuthLeft]] <br>
[[File:Monarch.png]] [[:Category:Monarchists|Monarchists]] <br>
[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[:Category:Socialists|Socialists]] <br>
[[File:Cultcenter.png]] [[:Category:Cultural Center|Culturally Variable]]<br>
|influences =
Main:<br>  
[[File:Monarch.png]] [[Monarchism]] <br>
[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]] <br>
Factions:<br>
[[File:Conmon.png]] [[Constitutional Monarchism]]  <br>
[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism]] <br>
[[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy]]<br>
|influenced = [[File:Euskadi_Carlism.png]] [[Euskadi Carlism]] <br>
[[File:Mladorossi.png]] [[Mladorossism]] <br>
[[File:Monsynd.png]] [[Monarcho-Syndicalism]]<br>
[[File:Pahlavi.png]] [[Monarcho-Capitalism|Pahlavism]] <br>
[[File:Gaddafi.png]] [[Gaddafism]] <br>
|song=[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUN2nDARObQ God Save The Queen (Red Army Choir version)] <br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tVHRo7TD98 <s> Monarchist Einheitsfrontslied </s> Barayie Vatan be pish - Persian Shahist Song] <br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRCdtVYOu_o Iranian Imperial Song - Enghelâb-e sefid] <br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGBKm9mwDAg Siberian Riflemen + Partisan's Song] <br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEPYc82jJ7Q Pharaoh Atem the tyrant theme] <br>
|theorists= *[[File:Reactsoc.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism|Wang Mang]] (45 BC - 23) [[File:Cball-China.png]] China
*[[File:Christcom.png]] [[Christian Socialism|Jan Van Leiden]] (1509-1534) [[File:Cball-Netherlands.png]] Netherlands\[[File:Cball-HRE.png]] Holy Roman Empire
*[[File:Enlightmon.png]] [[Enlightened Absolutism|Joseph II]] (1741-1790) [[File:Cball-Austria.png]] Archduchy of Austria
*[[File:Consocf.png]] [[Conservative Socialism|Johann Karl Rodbertus]] (1805-1875) [[File:Cball-Germany.png]] Germany
*[[File:Cball-TaipingHeavenlyKingdom.png]] [[Christian Socialism|Hong Xiuquan]] (1814-1864) [[File:Cball-Qing.png]] China
*[[File:Lassalle.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Ferdinand Lasselle]] (1825-1864) [[File:Cball-Prussia.png]] Prussia
*[[File:Lutheran_Theocracy.png]] [[Protestant Theocracy#Lutheranism|Adolf Stoecker]] (1835-1909) [[File:Cball-Germany.png]] Germany
*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism|Beatrice Webb]] (1858-1943) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
*[[File:Orth.png]] [[Orthodox Theocracy|Ilya Fondaminsky]] (1880-1942) [[File:Cball-Russian Empire.png]] Russia
*[[File:PrusSoc.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism|Oswald]] [[Cultural Nationalism|Spengler]] (1880-1936) [[File:Cball-Germany.png]] Germany (self-proclaimed)
*[[File:ClementAttlee.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Clement Attlee]] (1883-1967) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
*[[File:Kita.png]] [[National Bolshevism|Ikki Kita]] (1883-1937) [[File:Cball-Japan.png]] Japan
*[[File:Austrmarx.png]] [[Austromarxism|Elisabeth Marie von Habsburg-Lothringen]] (1883-1963) [[File:Cball-Austria.png]] Austria
*[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Matriarchal Monarchism|Elisabeth of Romania]] (1894–1956) [[File:Cball-Romania.png]] Romania
*[[File:GarciaLorca.png]] [[Anarcho-Monarchism|Federico Gar]][[Anarcho-Communism|cía Lorca]] (1898-1936) [[File:Cball-Spain.png]] Spain
*[[File:Mladorossi.png]] [[Mladorossism|Alexander Lvovich Kazembek]] (1902-1977) [[File:Cball-Russian Empire.png]] Russia
*[[File:AmanullahKhan.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism|Amanullah Khan]] (1914-2007) [[File:Cball-IRAfghanistan.png]] Kingdom of Afghanistan
*[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism|Mohammad Hashim Maiwandwal]] (1921-1973) [[File:Cball-Afghanistan.png]] Kingdom of Afghanistan
*[[File:Pahlavi.png]] [[Monarcho-Capitalism|Mohammad Reza Pahlavi]] (Self proclaimed, 1919-1980) [[File:Cball-Persia.png]]Persia/[[File:Cball-ImperialStateOfIran.png]] Iran (self-proclaimed)
*[[File:KPThought.png]] [[Ho Chi Minh Thought|Souphanouvong]] (1909-1995) [[File:Cball-Laos.png]] Laos
*[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Constitutional Monarchism|Michael I]] (1921-2017) [[File:Cball-Romania.png]] Romania (sort of)
*[[File:Norodom.png]] [[Buddhist Socialism|Norodom Sihanouk]] (1922 - 2012) [[File:Cball-Cambodia.png]] Cambodia
*[[File:Euskadi_Carlism.png]] [[Euskadi Carlism|Carlos Hugo, Duke of Parma]] (1930-2010) [[File:Cball-Spain.png]] Spain
*[[File:Gaddafi.png]] [[Gaddafism|Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi]] (1942-2011) [[File:Gaddafi.png]] Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
*[[File:New_Jewel.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|Maurice Bishop]] (1944-1983) [[File:Cball-Grenada.png]] Grenada (pragmatically)
|likes=
Socialist Monarchies <br>
The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom <br>
The Inca Empire <br>
Mladorossi <br>
Grenada <br>
When people know about him <br>
|dislikes=
Captialist Republics <br>
People that say that Monarchism and Socialism aren't compatible <br>
When people don't know about him <br>
|variants=
*[[File:Hellenism.png]] '''Heliopolitae Model''' {{Collapse|
**[[File:Abolitionism.png]] {{PCBA|Abolitionism}}
**[[File:Anti-Romanism.png]] Anti-Romanism
**[[File:AntiCaste.png]] Anti-Serfdom
**[[File:Community.png]] [[Communitarianism]]
**[[File:Equality.png]] {{PCBA|Egalitarianism}}
**[[File:Hellenism.png]] [[Pagan Theocracy#Hellenistic|Hellenist Theocracy]]
**[[File:Populare.png]] [[Populareism]]
**[[File:Urb.png]] [[Patchwork]]
}}
*[[File:Kemerovo.png]] '''Kemerovo Model (TNO)''' {{Collapse|
***'''Rurik II Thought'''
**[[File:Kak-Dunce.png]] [[Kakistocracy]] (Accused)
**[[File:Leftnat.png]] [[Left-Wing Nationalism]]
**[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]]
**[[File:Cball-KyivanRus.png]] [[Feudalism|Kievan Rus Model]] (Aesthetically)
**[[File:Pragmat.png]] [[Machiavellianism|Pragmatism]]
**[[File:Reform.png]] [[Reformism]]
**[[File:Reactsoc.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism]] (aesthetically)
***'''Lydia Krylova Thought'''
**[[File:Arist.png]] [[Aristocracy|Aristocratic]] [[Conservatism|Authoritarian Conservatism]]
**[[File:Matmon.png]] [[Matriarchal Monarchism]]
**[[File:Mil.png]] [[Stratocracy|Militarism]]
**[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]]
***'''Yuriy Krylov Thought'''
**[[File:Paternalism.png]] [[Paternalism]]
**[[File:Lpop.png]] [[Left-Wing Populism]]
**[[File:Monsynd.png]] [[Monarcho-Syndicalism]]
**[[File:Socnat.png]] [[Social Democracy|Social Nationalism]]
}}
*[[File:Reactsoc.png]] '''Wang Mang Thought''' {{Collapse|
**[[File:Abolitionism.png]] {{PCBA|Abolitionism}}
**[[File:Abmon.png]] [[Absolute Monarchism]]
**[[File:Antifeud.png]] Anti-Feudalism
**[[File:Chine.png]] [[Chinese Theocracy]]
**[[File:Confucianism.png]] [[Traditionalism|Confucianism]]
**[[File:Cultofpersonality.png]] [[Autocracy|Cult of Personality]]
**[[File:SocImp.png]] [[Imperialism|Left-Imperialism]]
**[[File:Kak-Dunce.png]] [[Kakistocracy|Incompetence]]
**[[File:LandReform.png]] [[Agrarian Socialism|Land Reformism]]
**[[File:Reactsoc.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism]]
**[[File:Statesoc.png]] [[State Socialism]]
**[[File:Tankie.png]] [[Stratocracy]]
**[[File:Ultraprogressive_Reactionarism.png]] [[Progressive Conservatism|Ultraprogressive Reactionarism]]
}}
}}
'''Monarcho-Socialism''', often shortened to '''MonSoc''', is a authoritarian left culturally variable ideology. Despite how he is often portrayed, he doesn't support the king as the leader of the revolution in most cases, instead preferring to have the monarch as the constitutional head of state while the [[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|socialist]] government does the politicking.


== How to Draw ==
==History==
'''Standard'''
The first arguably Monarcho-Socialist movement is the [[File:Mladorossi.png]] [[Mladorossism]], although a lot of modern-day Monarcho-Socialists see that as more NazBol than MonSoc, which advocated for a Russian Monarchy under a soviet style system, under their motto "The Tsar and the Soviets!". Although there is some evidence that Mladorossi might just have been a Soviet puppet party to catch dissenters. After this rumor came out, the group disbanded fast.
# Draw a circle
# Colour the inside of the circle red
# Make two yellow lines and colour the inside purple
# Draw a yellow crown inside the purple area
# Draw a red star with a red inside
# Add trims to the yellow line, similar to a Fleur de Lis
# Give the ball a crown
'''Alternative'''
# Draw a circle
# Colour the inside purple
# Draw a red rose inside the ball
# Give the ball a crown


== History and Modern Day ==
The first movement that can be almost universally seen as Monarcho-Socialist is the [[File:Euskadi Carlism.png]] [[Euskadi Carlism]] which resulted in the Carlist Party becoming more and more socialist in the image of Tito. While the Carlists are still considered a positive thing by most modern-day Monarcho-Socialists, some conservative elements may still be seen as controversial.
The first arguably Monarcho-Socialist movement is the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mladorossi Union of Mladorossi], although a lot of modern day Monarcho-Socialists see that as more NazBol then MonSoc, which advocated for a Russian Monarchy under a sovietsyle system, under their motto "The Tsar and the Soviets!". Although there is some evidence that Mladorossi might just have been a Soviet puppet-party to catch dissenters, after this rumour came out the group disbanded fast.


The first movement that can be almost universally seen as Monarcho-Socialist is the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlist_Party_(1970) Carlus Hugo line of the Carlists] which resulted in the Carlist Party becoming more and more socialist in the image of Tito. While the Carlists are still considered a positive thing towards most modern day Monarcho-Socialists, some conservative elements may still be seen as controversial.
While some Monarcho-Socialists still support absolute-socialist monarchies. [https://www.reddit.com/r/MonarchoSocialism/comments/gy713u/decided_to_do_a_little_demographic_vote/ according to this poll around 28.4%], most Monarcho-Socialists support a Socialist Government under a Constitutional Monarchy. it is estimated that most MonSocs, at least the constitutionalists, think that Mladorossi does not properly represent modern-day Monarcho-Socialist interests. While the reasons to want a monarchy are divided between stuff like patriotism (although not nationalism) and stability, religious reasons are rarely mentioned. The countries they consider most likely to turn MonSoc if there was one, are countries like Norway, the Netherlands, and Spain if Carlism regains popularity.


While other regimes are surely memed by modern day MonSocs such as the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Revolutionary_Government_(Grenada) People's Revolutionary Government of Grenada]. Monarcho-Socialism has drastically changed since the 70's and 80's.
Important sections of the Work in Progress MonSoc manifesto "The Case for the Compatibility of Monarchism and Socialism" (not linked here due to author request, since he prefers it to be linked when it's done, although private copies can easily be gotten by DM'ing him) are the "Volkskoning", a king who may he doesn't actively promote a socialist government (perhaps due to constitutional reasons) but also doesn't actively work against it (a prime example of a Volkskoning being [[w:Haakon_VII_of_Norway|Haakon VII of Norway]]) and the 4 Rights of the People, those rights being the Right of Organisation, Right of Self-Rule, Right of Education and Right of Equality.


While some Monarcho-Socialists still support absolute-socialist monarchies. [https://www.reddit.com/r/MonarchoSocialism/comments/gy713u/decided_to_do_a_little_demographic_vote/ according to this poll around 28.4%], most Monarcho-Socialists support an Socialist Government under a Constitutional Monarchy. '''The following statistics are not yet polled, but are rough estimates based on people on the r/MonarchoSocialism discord, this page will be updated if the polls are done''', those estimates being that most MonSocs, atleast the constitutionalists, think that Mladorossi does not properly represent modern day Monarcho-Socialist interests. While the reasons to want a monarchy are divided between stuff like patriotism (although not nationalism) and stability, religion reasons are rarely mentioned. The countries they consider most likeley to turn MonSoc if there was one, are countries like Norway, the Netherlands and Spain if Carlism regains popularity.
Despite the memes, the Grenadan New Jewel Movement was not monarcho-socialist. They only kept the monarchy out of pragmatism.


Important sections of the Work in Progress MonSoc manifesto "The Case for the Compatibility of Monarchism and Socialism" (not linked here due to author request, since he prefers it to be linked when it's done, although private copies can easily be gotten by DM'ing him) are the "Volkskoning", a king who may he doesn't actively promote a socialist government (perhaps due too constitutional reasons) but also doesn't actively work against it (a prime example of a Volkskoning being [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haakon_VII_of_Norway Haakon VII of Norway]) and the 4 Rights of the People, those rights being the Right of Organisation, Right of Self-Rule, Right of Education and Right of Equality.
==Stylistic Notes==
MonSoc is portrayed to some degree as a stereotypical king or another member of royalty, however, he is known to take a paternal role in regard to his people and vehemently defends their right to be protected from the oppressive nature of capitalism, often through his government.


== Stylistic notes ==
MonSoc often claims he has "the divine right to destroy the bourgeoisie" in response to those who challenge his actions or views.  Upon being asked about his stance on the Russian Civil War, MonSoc has claimed to have funded both sides, remarking that "both Lenin and the Tsar were based".
MonSoc is portrayed to some degree as a stereotypical king or other member of royality, however, he is known to take a paternal role in regards to his people and vehemently defends their right to be protected from the oppressive nature of capitalism, often through his government


MonSoc often claims he has "the divine right to destroy the bourgeoisie" in response to those who challenge his actions or views. He can also be seen praising the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Revolutionary_Government_(Grenada) People's Revolutionary Government of Grenada] (a real-world example of a Marxist-Leninist state under a constitutional monarchy). Upon being asked about his stance on the Russian Civil War, MonSoc has claimed to have funded both sides, remarking that "both Lenin and the Tsar were based".
==How to Draw==
Based on [https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/7iuc09/a_flag_for_communist_monarchism_because_i_can/ this flag] by u/r0bbins
{{Flag|Moncom_flag.svg}}
#Draw a circle.
#Colour the inside of the circle red.
#Make two yellow lines and color the inside purple.
#Draw a yellow crown inside the purple area.
# Draw a red star with a red inside.
#Add trims to the yellow line, similar to a Fleur de Lis.
#Add a crown on top (Gold for the crown, and red for the jewels),
#Add the eyes and you are done.
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|h1 = #CD2A21
|c2 = Yellow
|h2 = #FED216
|c3 = Purple
|h3 = #832D84
|c4=Gold|h4=#FEE400
|c5=Red|h5=#FF0000
}}


==Relationships==
==Relationships==
===Friends===
===Friends===
* [[File: Conmon.png]] [[Constitutional Monarchism]] - You're cool, with you I can have both a monarch and a revolutionary leader
*[[File:Conmon.png]] [[Constitutional Monarchism]] - You're cool. With you, I can have both a monarch and a revolutionary leader.
*[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]] - It is the worker's right to be freed from the chains of capital.
*[[File:Monarch.png]] [[Monarchism]] - Long live the king! But you need to see the benefits of socialism.
*[[File:Monsynd.png]] [[Monarcho-Syndicalism]] - Based sister!
*[[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy]] - I guess moderatism isn't that bad.
*[[File:Long.png]] [[Longism]] - About as good as you can get within the republican system.
*[[File:Mladorossi.png]] [[Mladorossism]] - The Tsar and the Soviets indeed! ONE STRUGGLE.
*[[File:Euskadi Carlism.png]] [[Euskadi Carlism]] - Carlos Hugo did nothing wrong!
*[[File:Christsoc.png]] [[Christian Socialism]] - The Münster Rebellion was very epic. Hong Xiuquan was based too.
* [[File:Cball-FrenchSecondRepublic.png]] [[Bonapartism|Neo-Bonapartism]] - Napoleon III identified himself as a Socialist!
* [[File:Gaddafi.png]] [[Gaddafism]] - Hell yeah! The way you crowned yourself as King of Kings was based!
*[[File:ClementAttlee.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Atlee Socialism]] - Best British prime minister ever.


* [[File: Soc.png]] [[Socialism|Socialism ]]- It is the worker's right to be freed from the chains of capital
* [[File: Monarch.png]] [[Monarchism]] - Long live the king! But you still could benefit from socialism
* [[File: Monsynd.png]] [[Monarcho-Syndicalism]] - Based brother!
* [[File: Socdem.png|link=https://polcompballs.fandom.com/wiki/File:_Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy]] - I guess moderatism isn't that bad
* [[File: Long.png]] [[Longism]] - The best the republican system can get
===Frenemies===
===Frenemies===
* [[File: Anmona.png]] [[Anarcho-Monarchism]] - You confuse me, brother
*[[File:Anmona.png]] [[Anarcho-Monarchism]] - You confuse me, brother.
 
*[[File:Moncap.png]] [[Monarcho-Capitalism]] - You're right half of the time (and Mohammad Reza Pahlavi had some based ideas).
* [[File: Consocf.png]] [[Conservative Socialism]] - Sometimes we get into disagreements about social views and government systems but you like both socialism and traditional institutions and I can respect you for that
*[[File:Bism.png]] [[Bismarckism]] - You're '''sooo''' close! Just drop the Anti-Socialism please!
 
*[[File:Nordmodel.png]] [[Nordic Model]] - You aren't even a socialist, but you did a decent job in Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Just don't give in to [[File:Hoyre.png]] those bourgeois [[File:ProgPartyNorway.png]], all right?.. Oh wait, Sweden [[File:ModPartyicon.png]] already did. Shame.
* [[File: Juche.png]] [[Juche]] - We're different but a lot of people seem to think we're the same
*[[File:Reactsoc.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism]] - You have the right idea but you take it <u>'''''way'''''</u> too far.
*[[File:Consocf.png]] [[Conservative Socialism]] - Sometimes we get into disagreements about social views and government systems but you like both socialism and traditional institutions and I can respect you for that.
*[[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy]] - Too moderate, democratic, and sympathetic to capitalism. But I still like what you did in Spain after [[File:Franco-alt.png]] that old geezer kicked the bucket.
*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism]] - You're less moderate, and closer to me than [[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy|your brother]], but you still like democracy which is cringe.
* [[File:Juche.png]] [[Juche]] - We are different but a lot of people seem to think we're the same.
*[[File:Nazbol.png]] [[National Bolshevism]] - I don't know how to feel about you, but the Mladorossi were ''extremely'' based.
*[[File:Hoxha.png]] [[Hoxhaism]] - [[w:Albanian_Civil War|Why can't we just go back to being allies against the liberals?]]
*[[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism]] - You want to abolish the state in the end? Cringe. But the New Jewel Movement was based.
*[[File:Kemal.png]] [[Kemalism]] - You are a Republican who abolished the caliphate and deposed the Sultan, which are cringe. But thanks a lot for your inspiration on the nation-building of [[File:AmanullahKhan.png]] Amanullah Khan and [[File:ZahirShah.png]] Mohammed Zahir Shah in Afghanistan, as well as [[File:RezaShah.png]]Reza Shah and [[File:Pahlavi.png]] Mohammad Reza Pahlavi in Iran.


* [[File: Nazbol.png]] [[National Bolshevism]] - I don't know how to feel about you, but the Mladorossi were ''extremely'' based
* [[File: Jack.png]] [[Jacobin]] You want to kill me but you are also socialist. I don’t know how to feel about you.
===Enemies===
===Enemies===
* [[File: Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]] - Naive utopian who believes I'm just as bad as the capitalists because I'm a king
*[[File:Banana Republicanism.png]] [[Banana Republicanism]] - Least exploitative Republic. Literally my polar opposite!
*[[File:Nazi.png]] [[Nazism]] - You opposed the monarchy and murdered a bunch of random people.
*[[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]] - Naive utopian who believes I'm just as bad as the capitalists because I'm a king.
*[[File:Clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]] - Your anti-monarchism and worship of laissez-faire economies disgust me.
*[[File:Lib.png]] [[Liberalism]] - You don't believe in monarchies and you let global capitalism hurt the working people, how can I ever like you?
*[[File:Ancapf.png]] [[Anarcho-Capitalism]] - You are the embodiment of everything I hate. You believe Monarch hierarchy is unjust but believe the exploitation of the working class by rich capitalist scum is fully just. Filthy Anarchist and Capitalist scum!
*[[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] - Anarchists keep confusing us two.
*[[File:Polpot.png]] [[Pol Potism]] - Disgusting, I don't want to be your figurehead.
*[[File:Obj.png]] [[Objectivism]] - The f*ck is this?
*[[File:Jack.png]] [[Jacobinism]] - Bourgeois "revolutionary" and king-killer!
*[[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism]] - Why tf did you slaughter the entire family of the Tsar when you could have at least left them alive as a figurehead? No wonder you were rendered a pariah.


* [[File: Clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]] - Your anti-monarchism and worship of laissez-faire economies disgusts me
==Further Information==
===Wikipedia===
*[[w:GRUNK|Royal Government of the National Union of Kampuchea]]
*[[w:Coalition Government of Democratic Kampuchea|Coalition Government of Democratic Kampuchea]]
*[[w:Sangkum|Sangkum (Popular Socialist Community)]]
*[[w:People's Revolutionary Government|People's Revolutionary Government]]
*[[w:Cambodian People's Party|Cambodian People's Party]]
*[[w:Carlist_Party_(1970)|Carlist Party (1970)]]
*[[w:Lys_rouge|Lys Rouge (First Publication)]]
*[[w:Mladorossi|Mladorossi]]
*[[w:Nouvelle Action Royaliste|Nouvelle Action Royaliste]]
*[[w:Red Army intervention in Afghanistan (1929)|Red Army intervention in Afghanistan (1929)]]
*[[w:Economy_of_the_Inca_Empire|Economy of the Inca Empire]]
*[[w:History_of_socialism#In_antiquity|History of Socialism in antiquity]]
*[[w:Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom|Taiping Heavenly Kingdom]]
*[[w:King_of_Kings#Libya|King of Kings: Libya]]
*[[w:Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi#Economy|Mohammad Reza Pahlavi: Economy]]
*[[w:Mazdak|Mazdak]]
*[[w:M%C3%BCnster_rebellion|Münster rebellion]]
*[[w:San_people#Society|San people: Society]]
*[[w:Afro-Bolivian_monarchy|Afro-Bolivian Monarchy]]
*[[w:Ancient_Egypt#Government_and_economy|Ancient Egypt: Gouvernment and economy]]
*[[w:Palace_economy|Palace Economy]]
*[[w:Democratic_Federal_Yugoslavia|Democratic Federal Yugoslavia]]
*[[w:Qarmatians]]


* [[File: Lib.png]] [[Liberalism]] - You don't believe in monarchies and you let global capitalism hurt the working people, how can I ever like you?
===Online Communities===
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/MonarchoSocialism/ r/MonarchoSocialism]


* [[File: Ancapf.png]] [[Anarcho-Capitalism]] - You are the embodiment of everything I hate. You believe Monarch hierarchy is unjust but believe the exploitation of the working class by rich capitalist scum is fully just. Filthy Anarchist and Capitalist scum!
Literature:
* [[File: Fash.png|link=https://polcompballs.fandom.com/wiki/File:_Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] - Anarchists keep confusing us two
== Further info ==


=== Wikipedia ===
A Constitution For the Socialist Commonwealth of Great Britain:
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Revolutionary_Government_(Grenada) People's Revolutionary Government of Grenada]


* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlist_Party_(1970) Carlist Party (1970)]
https://archive.org/details/constitutionfors00passuoft
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mladorossi Mladorossi]


=== Subreddit ===
===Videos===
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MonarchoSocialism/ r/MonarchoSocialism]


== Gallery ==
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL4YnU3X_go What is Marxist-Monarchism? (Monarcho-Marxism)] <br>
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBWNgTUFSG4 How Asian Empires were Socialist] by [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl63ZOm_bepvwoKjw24rogA Infrared] <br>
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Latest revision as of 06:12, 15 June 2023

Monarcho-Socialism, often shortened to MonSoc, is a authoritarian left culturally variable ideology. Despite how he is often portrayed, he doesn't support the king as the leader of the revolution in most cases, instead preferring to have the monarch as the constitutional head of state while the socialist government does the politicking.

History

The first arguably Monarcho-Socialist movement is the Mladorossism, although a lot of modern-day Monarcho-Socialists see that as more NazBol than MonSoc, which advocated for a Russian Monarchy under a soviet style system, under their motto "The Tsar and the Soviets!". Although there is some evidence that Mladorossi might just have been a Soviet puppet party to catch dissenters. After this rumor came out, the group disbanded fast.

The first movement that can be almost universally seen as Monarcho-Socialist is the Euskadi Carlism which resulted in the Carlist Party becoming more and more socialist in the image of Tito. While the Carlists are still considered a positive thing by most modern-day Monarcho-Socialists, some conservative elements may still be seen as controversial.

While some Monarcho-Socialists still support absolute-socialist monarchies. according to this poll around 28.4%, most Monarcho-Socialists support a Socialist Government under a Constitutional Monarchy. it is estimated that most MonSocs, at least the constitutionalists, think that Mladorossi does not properly represent modern-day Monarcho-Socialist interests. While the reasons to want a monarchy are divided between stuff like patriotism (although not nationalism) and stability, religious reasons are rarely mentioned. The countries they consider most likely to turn MonSoc if there was one, are countries like Norway, the Netherlands, and Spain if Carlism regains popularity.

Important sections of the Work in Progress MonSoc manifesto "The Case for the Compatibility of Monarchism and Socialism" (not linked here due to author request, since he prefers it to be linked when it's done, although private copies can easily be gotten by DM'ing him) are the "Volkskoning", a king who may he doesn't actively promote a socialist government (perhaps due to constitutional reasons) but also doesn't actively work against it (a prime example of a Volkskoning being Haakon VII of Norway) and the 4 Rights of the People, those rights being the Right of Organisation, Right of Self-Rule, Right of Education and Right of Equality.

Despite the memes, the Grenadan New Jewel Movement was not monarcho-socialist. They only kept the monarchy out of pragmatism.

Stylistic Notes

MonSoc is portrayed to some degree as a stereotypical king or another member of royalty, however, he is known to take a paternal role in regard to his people and vehemently defends their right to be protected from the oppressive nature of capitalism, often through his government.

MonSoc often claims he has "the divine right to destroy the bourgeoisie" in response to those who challenge his actions or views. Upon being asked about his stance on the Russian Civil War, MonSoc has claimed to have funded both sides, remarking that "both Lenin and the Tsar were based".

How to Draw

Based on this flag by u/r0bbins

Flag of Monarcho-Socialism
  1. Draw a circle.
  2. Colour the inside of the circle red.
  3. Make two yellow lines and color the inside purple.
  4. Draw a yellow crown inside the purple area.
  5. Draw a red star with a red inside.
  6. Add trims to the yellow line, similar to a Fleur de Lis.
  7. Add a crown on top (Gold for the crown, and red for the jewels),
  8. Add the eyes and you are done.
Color Name HEX RGB
Red #CD2A21 205, 42, 33
Yellow #FED216 254, 210, 22
Purple #832D84 131, 45, 132
Gold #FEE400 254, 228, 0
Red #FF0000 255, 0, 0


Relationships

Friends

Frenemies

  • Anarcho-Monarchism - You confuse me, brother.
  • Monarcho-Capitalism - You're right half of the time (and Mohammad Reza Pahlavi had some based ideas).
  • Bismarckism - You're sooo close! Just drop the Anti-Socialism please!
  • Nordic Model - You aren't even a socialist, but you did a decent job in Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Just don't give in to those bourgeois , all right?.. Oh wait, Sweden already did. Shame.
  • Reactionary Socialism - You have the right idea but you take it way too far.
  • Conservative Socialism - Sometimes we get into disagreements about social views and government systems but you like both socialism and traditional institutions and I can respect you for that.
  • Social Democracy - Too moderate, democratic, and sympathetic to capitalism. But I still like what you did in Spain after that old geezer kicked the bucket.
  • Democratic Socialism - You're less moderate, and closer to me than your brother, but you still like democracy which is cringe.
  • Juche - We are different but a lot of people seem to think we're the same.
  • National Bolshevism - I don't know how to feel about you, but the Mladorossi were extremely based.
  • Hoxhaism - Why can't we just go back to being allies against the liberals?
  • Marxism–Leninism - You want to abolish the state in the end? Cringe. But the New Jewel Movement was based.
  • Kemalism - You are a Republican who abolished the caliphate and deposed the Sultan, which are cringe. But thanks a lot for your inspiration on the nation-building of Amanullah Khan and Mohammed Zahir Shah in Afghanistan, as well as Reza Shah and Mohammad Reza Pahlavi in Iran.

Enemies

  • Banana Republicanism - Least exploitative Republic. Literally my polar opposite!
  • Nazism - You opposed the monarchy and murdered a bunch of random people.
  • Anarcho-Communism - Naive utopian who believes I'm just as bad as the capitalists because I'm a king.
  • Classical Liberalism - Your anti-monarchism and worship of laissez-faire economies disgust me.
  • Liberalism - You don't believe in monarchies and you let global capitalism hurt the working people, how can I ever like you?
  • Anarcho-Capitalism - You are the embodiment of everything I hate. You believe Monarch hierarchy is unjust but believe the exploitation of the working class by rich capitalist scum is fully just. Filthy Anarchist and Capitalist scum!
  • Fascism - Anarchists keep confusing us two.
  • Pol Potism - Disgusting, I don't want to be your figurehead.
  • Objectivism - The f*ck is this?
  • Jacobinism - Bourgeois "revolutionary" and king-killer!
  • Leninism - Why tf did you slaughter the entire family of the Tsar when you could have at least left them alive as a figurehead? No wonder you were rendered a pariah.

Further Information

Wikipedia

Online Communities

Literature:

A Constitution For the Socialist Commonwealth of Great Britain:

https://archive.org/details/constitutionfors00passuoft

Videos

What is Marxist-Monarchism? (Monarcho-Marxism)
How Asian Empires were Socialist by Infrared

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