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File:Kimsoc_2.png| Hammer and Sickle (Current)
| aliases=<small>'' (feel free to add your aliases here)''</small> <BR>  
File:Kimsoc.png|Pickaxe and Saber (Old)
*[[file: Kimsoc_Sprite.png]] [[File:LBubble.png]] Kimnoism, '''AUTHENTIC'''[[File:RBubble.png]]<br>
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*[[File:Jefsynd.png]] [[File:LBubble.png]] Me but Chilean [[File:RBubble.png]]<br>
| caption= Socialism or Extinction.
*[[File:Qacc.png|link=User:Quark]] [[File:LBubble.png]] Insufferable liberal communism [[File:RBubble.png]]<br>
| aliases=<small>'' (feel free to add your aliases here)''</small> <BR> [[file: Kimsoc_Sprite.png]] [[File:LBubble.png]] Kimnoism, Chilean Neo-Socialism[[File:RBubble.png]]<br> [[File:Jefsynd.png]] [[File:LBubble.png]] Me but Chilean [[File:RBubble.png]]<br>
*[[File:Hoodism.png]] [[File:LBubble.png]] I'll Fucking miss you pal [[File:RBubble.png]]<br>
*{{Alias|Bax.png|Baxism|Council Communism with more steps}} <br>
*[[File:AriFut.png|Aristocratic Futurism]] [[File:LBubble.png]] '''Obsolete-ism''' [[File:RBubble.png]]
*{{Alias|Brazlib.png|Brazilian Liberalism|[[file:Commie.png]] Commie}}
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{{Info/Socialists}}
*{{Info/Communists}} <br>
{{Info/Communists}} <br>
{{Info/Left Unity}} <br>
{{Info/CultCentreLefts}} <br>
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|influences =
[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] <br>
[[File:councom.png]] [[Council Communism|Dutch-German Left Communism]] <br>
[[File:Allende.png]] [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Unity_(Chile) Unidad Popular] <br>
[[File:Socan2.png]] [[Social Anarchism]] <br>
[[File:Lenin.png]][[Leninism]] <br>


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*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] '''[[Marxism]]''' <br>
*[[File:dutchgermanleft.png]] '''[[Council Communism|Dutch-German Left Communism]]'''
*[[File:Situ.png]] '''[[Situationism]]'''
*[[File:Natcom.png]] '''[[National Communism]]'''
*[[File:Nietzsche.png]] '''[[Nietzscheanism]]'''
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|succeeded = [[Kimnostic_Minarchism|Kimnostic Minarchism]] [[File:KimMin_Sprite_2.png]] <br>
|succeeded = *[[File:KimMin_Sprite_2.png]] '''[[Kimnostic_Minarchism|Kimnostic Minarchism]]'''
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|book = Work in Progress
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|country = Chile [[File:Cball-Chile.png]] <br>
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==Beliefs==
===[[File:dutchgermanleft.png]]'''Nuestra Guerra'''===
===[[File:Nietzsche.png]]'''Revolt as a Rejection of "To Be"'''===
===[[File:situ.png]] Withering by Lethargy===
=Relations=


=Overview=
==[[File:Mega Yes.png]] {{Color|#082C19|'''Based!!'''}}==
 
[[File:PostJef.png]] '''[[Post-Jefbolism]]''' ([[File:PostMarxism.png]]) <br>
==Short Description==
a superb writer and maybe the only other communist I know of which agrees with communism without resentment: communism as the transvaluation of all values. There is near nothing to critique other than your idea of an imaginary party, which although you claim would be instrumental in ending the perpetual cycle of violence, I see simply as a titanic liability prone to collapsing under it's own weight. Then again, I am mostly unfamiliar with Tiqqun's conception. If you believe my critique is invalid I would be happy to read any sources you would provide. <br> <br>
Kimno Thought is a [[file:Commie.png]] [[Socialism|Communist]], [[file:Leftunity.png]] [[Communism_(Disambiguation)|Far-Left]] [[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism|Marxist]] ideology originated from [[file: Kimsoc_Sprite.png]] Kimno's theoretical, social and historical knowledge and interpretations. It originally came into being through Kimno's disillusionment with [[File:Awaj.png]][[Anarchism|Anarchist]] movements, and a more profound understanding of the situation in Chile. It is still under constant development.
 
==Basic Principles==
The most essential aspects of this ideology are the establishment of [[file:Commie.png]] Communism and all that that entails (The abolition of Value, Wages, Money, Commodity Production, etc). To this end, Kimno believes in a [[file:Erga.png]] [[Ergatocracy|Dictatorship of the Proletariat]] "from below" led by revolutionary organizations in the form of [[file:councom.png]] councils composed by proletarians self-organizing their workplaces and communities. It also believes in the use of a [[file:ML.png]] Communist Party, but here is where it differentiates itself from other classical marxist ideologies. Instead of being a form of outright leadership, the party fills the role of an "advisor" which spearheads the greater social shifts that are necessary to the stabilization of socialism in the long term. It is entrusted with educating the masses on Marxism, proposing legislation and carrying out feedback programs on the population
 
==Political Journey==
Social Democrat [[File:Socdem.png]] > Democratic Socialist [[File:Demsocstar.png]] > Left Minarchist [[File:Minsocf.png]]/Anarchist [[File:Ancom.png]] > Communist [[File:Kimsoc_Sprite.png]]
 
=Government=
 
==Organization & Councils==
Councils are the ultimate form of proletarian self-management and political power. The councils directly represent the proletariat's will, and as such, should be entrusted with near all spheres of political, economic and social life. The association of free and equal producers envisioned by [[file:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism|Marx]] cannot be realized without the councils; and the [[file:Cap.png]] profit motive, the [[file:Authcap.png]] capitalist state, and capitalist ideology likewise cannot be abolished in their absence.
But what are councils, and why do they matter? <br>
Put simply, they are assemblies formed by every worker locally, and by delegates chosen though a system of [[File:Liqdem.png]] [[liquid democracy]] nationally. In Chile, practically, there would be two distinct council formations: The Regional Assemblies and the Production Committees. The regional assemblies, made up of proletarian communities, would be divided into the [[File:Fed.png]] [[Federalism|national, regional, district, communal, and ward]] levels. Meanwhile, the production committees would be organized [[File:Indust.png]] industry by industry, from the factory level to the national level. They would federate into a single national council of delegates. At the lower levels, production committees and regional assemblies would function as the producer and consumer councils, while socially they would be concerned by workplace conditions and community wellbeing, respectively. Nationally, these distinctions become irrelevant, as the proletariat [[File:Unitary.png]] centralizes decision making as a single class.
 
==Class Dictatorship==
its necessary, should and will abolish itself if done correctly
 
==The Party==
should exist. Its a tool to be used by the working class. It is an advisor and a guiding force. I'm still unsure and learning about its political role beyond education and ideological aid.
 
==Justice==
rehabilitative, community based, pretty anarchist generally, in favor of more radical measures when revolutionary affairs
 
=Economy=
==Economic Calculation==
Labor time. (P + C ) + L = Total Product
 
==Abolition of Markets==
they're icky. Wage labor bad
 
==Abolition of Value==
It is icky. We must implement radical anti-value economic policies to get to communism
 
==The Councils==
Production Committees do the decisions. Consumer councils send feedback. The Association of Free and Equal Producers is #1
 
==The Transition==
Economic policy replicating the abolishment of value and wage labor is needed to abolish value and wage labor. Abolishing them in a capitalist world is impossible. A transitional economic phase will have to do
 
=Culture=
==Cultural Rebirth==
Neoliberal culture is sucky. Reinvent culture


==Art==
[[file:Nightshade.png]] '''[[Venatrixism]]''' ([[File:Communization.png]])
Make things pretty again. Make new art, do good urban planning, decommodify beauty
 
==Community==
very important. Local communities all the way up to the community of proletarians are the heart of a communist society
 
==Collectivism==
the best. Hooman Nature and stuff.
 
==The Family==
its very good (abolish it eventually but its not a top priority for lower-stage communism)
 
==The Individual==
its important, but it means nothing without the rest of humanity (you are a manifestation of the universe, you are not above it)
 
==Gen Z and the Psychology of Collapse==
We sure are depressed. Nihilism, alarmism, and fatalism are bad. We should maintain realism and revolutionary thought
 
=Philosophy=
==The Value of Thought==
philosophy is cool. Human reflection on the state of the world and the nature of humanity are pretty essential.
 
==Existentialism==
We are born with the inevitable fate of death, but that is merely the final act of the play. We are born to love, be joyous, to move, learn, cry, feel. We are in fact born to live
 
==Humanism==
 
==Discipline==
incredibly important for any individual. It may even be MORE important for collective groups of people, and specifically the working class
 
=Relationships=
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==[[File:Yes.png]] {{Color|#1A8E51|Good}}==
 
==[[File:Meh.png]] {{Color|#FDCB00|OK}}==
 
==[[File:No.png]] {{Color|#FF2323|Terrible}}==
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==[[File:Mega Yes.png]] {{Color|#082C19|'''Based!!'''}}==


==[[File:Yes.png]] {{Color|#1A8E51|'''Great'''}}==
==[[File:Yes.png]] {{Color|#1A8E51|'''Great'''}}==
[[File:Jefsynd.png]] '''[[Jefbol Thought]]''' ([[File:Ormarxf.png]]/[[File:Deleon.png]]/[[File:Dutchgermanleft2.png]]/[[File:Situ.png]]) We share the same views on the state, revolution & reform, market socialism and the spectacle. We are both apparently classical Marxists and left communists. I would have put you in Based, but you do mention you are anti-humanist (though i'm sure you have a good reason), and an egoist, so i bumped you down a category, just barley placing you in Great. I must say your essays are very well written, i enjoyed reading your page. <br>
[[File:NeoUnopxl.png]] '''[[NeoUnoGamerism]]''' ([[file:Neomarx.png]]/[[file:Post-Genderism.png]]/[[File:Councom.png]]/[[File:Meta-Anarchism.png]]) Since your page is incomplete i can't really say much, but i am definitely not a fan if Nietzsche or Stirner. I'm also not fond of nihilism at all. Still, Marxism and Left-Communism are essential pillars in my own model, and we both went down the anarchist to commie pipeline; therefore you get a provisional good rating


==[[File:Meh.png]] {{Color|#FDCB00|'''Meh'''}}==
==[[File:Meh.png]] {{Color|#FDCB00|'''Meh'''}}==
[[File:Merid20.png]] '''[[Meridionalism]]''' ([[File:RevSocDem.png]]/[[File:SouthSep.png]]/[[File:Marketsoc.png]]/[[File:Libsoc.png]]) Market socialism is in its essence tainted by the ideology of the ruling class. The hell of capitalism is not the fact that the firm has a boss, it is the firm itself. Furthermore, it is implied on your page that you believe in a sort of republican parliamentary democracy, "Reformist Socialism" as you put it (correct me if i'm wrong). Put simply, if the socialist government is not proletarian and based on worker's self-managment at its core, the contradiction will resolve itself. Weakening the United States and establishing socialism in itself gives you points though. Your page is still not very complete, so you get a provisional meh rating.
[[File:Bax.png]] '''[[Baxism]]''' ([[File:FreeJacobin.png|link=Jacobinism]])


==[[File:No.png]] {{Color|#FF2323|'''Enemies (Icky)'''}}==
==[[File:No.png]] {{Color|#FF2323|'''Enemies (Icky)'''}}==
'''{{Hysteria Thought}}'''([[File:23507.png|30px]]) <br> I would like to preface this critique with the fact that this text is based on a quick and loose interpretation of the page. Please correct any misunderstanding I may have had. This is one of the more interesting pages I've read. Even though it is a very enthralling text, getting entangled in symbolic associations and abstract constructs detaches you from material reality. Your alienation from existence leads to a superficiality in the pursuit of individual creativity, which itself is meant to make us look beyond the vulgar and immediately at hand. glorifying the market's limitless potential will inevitably lead to herd mentality and chasing material pursuits instead of transcending humanity into the Übermensch. <br><br>
[[File:Agricoetism_icon.png]] '''[[Agricoetism]]''' ([[file:synd.png]])
<br><br>
[[File:NATBSanson.png]] '''[[Daniel Sansón Thought]]''' ([[file:statesoc.png]])


==[[File:Mega No.png]] {{Color|#B50015|'''Jump in the pit'''}}==
==[[File:Mega No.png]] {{Color|#B50015|'''Jump in the pit'''}}==
[[File:Brazlib.png]] '''[[Brazilian Liberalism]]''' ([[file:neoliberalism.png]])
<br><br>
[[File:Zio.png]] '''[[Israeli Democracy]]'''([[file:Zio.png]])


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==Comments==
=Comments=
*[[File:NeoUnopxl.png]] [[NeoUnoGamerism]] - Add me?
*{{Hysteria Thought}} - Add me?
**{{Kimno Thought}} Done :) Do me now please
**{{Hysteria Thought}} - I made the art you asked for
*[[File:Jefsynd.png]] [[Jefbol Thought]] - add me?
*[[File:Bax.png]] '''[[Baxism]]''' - Add me.
**{{Kimno Thought}} Yep, all done. Now do me
**[[File:Bax.png]] [[File:LBubble.png]] Man, I am not a Paetelist. I have sympathies with Paetel. [[File:RBubble.png]]
*[[File:Merid20.png]] [[Meridionalism]] - Add me pls([[File:RevSocDem.png]]/[[File:SouthSep.png]]/[[File:Marketsoc.png]]/[[File:Semidirect.png]]/[[File:Libsoc.png]])
***[[File:Kimsoc_Sprite.png]] [[File:LBubble.png]] My apologies, It's fixed now[[File:RBubble.png]]
**{{Kimno Thought}} Done. Do me now please
****[[File:Bax.png]] [[File:LBubble.png]] ''Un grande el Kimno.'' 🧐 [[File:RBubble.png]]
***[[File:Merid20.png]] [[Meridionalism]] - did
*[[File:NeoUnopxl.png]] '''[[NeoUnoGamerism]]''' - Add me?
*{{.dotdotdotsam Thought}} - add me back?
*[[File:Jefsynd.png]] '''[[Jefbol Thought]]''' - add me?
*{{NeoBorgism}} - 1. baste, 2. add me pls!
*[[File:Merid20.png]] '''[[Meridionalism]]''' - Add me pls([[File:RevSocDem.png]]/[[File:SouthSep.png]]/[[File:Marketsoc.png]]/[[File:Semidirect.png]]/[[File:Libsoc.png]])
*[[File:Brazlib.png]] [[Brazilian Liberalism]] (put any icons here) - add me?
*[[File:Brazlib.png]] '''[[Brazilian Liberalism]]''' (put any icons here) - add me?
*{{Merid}} - redo mine
*'''{{KK}}''' - Rework my relations too
*{{ABax}} - Add me.
*[[File:Zio.png]] '''[[Israeli Democracy]]''' - Add me
*{{Merid}} - I am back once again to ask for you rework my relations
*[[File:Agricoetism_icon.png]] '''[[Agricoetism]]''' - Add me
*[[File:NATBSanson.png]] '''[[Daniel Sansón Thought]]''' – Add me.
*[[file:Rigby.png]] [[Rigby Thought]] - Add me
*{{Meadowsin's Basilisk}} - Add me?
*[[File:KingInYellow.png]] [[Carcosan Communism]] Add me.

Latest revision as of 17:00, 13 March 2024

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"People can really believe anything these days!" - Ismism

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New stuff coming eventually. Amazing art by hysteria

Beliefs

Nuestra Guerra

Revolt as a Rejection of "To Be"

Withering by Lethargy

Relations

Based!!

Post-Jefbolism ()
a superb writer and maybe the only other communist I know of which agrees with communism without resentment: communism as the transvaluation of all values. There is near nothing to critique other than your idea of an imaginary party, which although you claim would be instrumental in ending the perpetual cycle of violence, I see simply as a titanic liability prone to collapsing under it's own weight. Then again, I am mostly unfamiliar with Tiqqun's conception. If you believe my critique is invalid I would be happy to read any sources you would provide.

Venatrixism ()

Great

Meh

Baxism ()

Enemies (Icky)

HysteriaThought()
I would like to preface this critique with the fact that this text is based on a quick and loose interpretation of the page. Please correct any misunderstanding I may have had. This is one of the more interesting pages I've read. Even though it is a very enthralling text, getting entangled in symbolic associations and abstract constructs detaches you from material reality. Your alienation from existence leads to a superficiality in the pursuit of individual creativity, which itself is meant to make us look beyond the vulgar and immediately at hand. glorifying the market's limitless potential will inevitably lead to herd mentality and chasing material pursuits instead of transcending humanity into the Übermensch.

Agricoetism ()

Daniel Sansón Thought ()

Jump in the pit

Brazilian Liberalism ()

Israeli Democracy()


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