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"People can really believe anything these days!" - Ismism

This page is meant to represent Nebeler's political views. Please do not make any major edits without their permission.


"The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature. One is that by the very order of things such evils are not demonstrable until they have occurred: at each stage in their onset there is room for doubt and for dispute whether they be real or imaginary. By the same token, they attract little attention in comparison with current troubles, which are both indisputable and pressing: whence the besetting temptation of all politics to concern itself with the immediate present at the expense of the future."

- Enoch Powell, 'Rivers of Blood' speech

"A society in which critical thinking is a crime against the state has lost its ability to create and is slated to survive only by spending the intellectual and technological capital created by previous generations."

- Lennart Meri

"A bulldozer, well-made, well-maintained and well-operated, is a positive force in the world. But only if it is controlled by a man and not a gorilla. If you saw a bulldozer driven by a qualified bulldozer operator, dear libertarian, would you cry: stop that bulldozer! I think not. You might be amazed at all the good works a qualified bulldozer operator can work with a bulldozer."

- Curtis Yarvin, Carlyle in the 20th Century


 National-Communitarian Theory is an economically left-leaning, culturally variable, and syncretic ideology which seeks the realisation of a fulfilling, community-based way of living for all those who are willing to earn it. It is moderately nationalist (favouring the formation of polities based on shared culture/ethnos), but considers chauvinism to be a mutual disservice, instead favouring solidarity between the working-class of all nations.



Beliefs

Geopolitical Balance of Power

I don't like unilateralism and world-empires, whether yielded by the United States or by anyone else. I'd consider myself an internationalist, although perhaps it would be more accurate to say I'm in favour of multilateralism — either way, I'd prefer it if most countries were actually sovereign and not just American protectorates. 'Multipolarity' is a nice idea — I only hesitate to use the term because I see it used too often by Duginists who use it to denote what is essentially just unipolarity by the opposition. Real multipolarity is a even and stable sharing of power by sovereign states, not just the 'anti-unipolarity unipolarity club'.

Foreign Intervention

In most cases, I'm opposed to foreign intervention — there's no reason, for example, for France to concern itself with what happens in Iraq (in the worst case, if conflict erupts, it should ensure the safety of its diplomats, officials, and citizens). The unnecessary suffering and destruction created by the International Army for World Peace's reign of "justice" has outweighed its positive influence. If nations are to be sovereign, then they cannot be bound by pacts which force them to go to war for something that happens halfway across the world. A country should only ever enter a conflict to defend its own interests.

Democracy

While two brains may be better than one, the provable existence of many sociological phenomena (the spiral of silence, the bandwagon effect, et al.) suggests that, as Nietzsche said, "In individuals, insanity is rare, but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule." While rulers should act in the interests of the general population, it is undesirable that law should be decided on a basis of whether the majority agrees with it. People are often unable to think on a broader scale, to think in the long term, and are easily misled. Democracy means that, quite frequently, the one who is best at pointing fingers and swaying the crowds will triumph over the one who is more knowledgeable.

Relationships

Like

  • Marxism - Very correct analyses. You should've been more patient with your pupils.
  • Titoism - Maybe it wasn't wise to force everyone together, considering what happened. But you did much better than the Eastern Bloc, and you were undoubtedly one of the greatest leaders in modern times!
  • Eco-Socialism - Preserving natural beauty is a collective responsibility!
  • Kemalism - You were pretty good. I wish you would come back to fix Turkey.

Like

Mixed feelings

Dislike

Much dislike

Much like

  • Agricoetism - Based, honestly. I just find your 'Afro-Japanese' LARP a bit strange. Aren't you half Maltese?
  • Marcusianism - Great and authentic. I very much enjoy your sense of irony.
  • Conorism - Posts funny 'jaks from the sharty, and a fellow CCRU enthusiast. Reddit gold!
  • Goober.png Gooberism - I like you too! Even if I lean to the left, you're cool and we agree on a lot of things! even if opps wiki

Like

  •  Baxism - I am personally sceptical of revolutionary violence, but you seem alright.
    • (Reëvaluation) - My feelings towards the Enlightenment and its ideals are usually mixed. I agree wholeheartedly with your conception of universal nationalism, and your fairly unique brand of Jacobinism is overall rather interesting. The only thing I find a bit strange is the mix of eugenics and welfarism. As Nick Land writes in The Dark Enlightenment: “Behavioral reality knows only one iron law: Whatever is subsidized is promoted”. (P.S. I recommend that text, I think you'd find it interesting.)
  • Shellshocked Communism - I can sympathise with you, and though your formulations carry that poetic vagueness which is characteristic of post-structuralists, they still convey an idea — which I interpret as a dream of a biomechanical world, of horizontality and freedom from alienation. Though maybe I am wrong.
    • - You are very right.
    • (Reëvaluation) Serene, organic. Though our convictions are different, I'm fond of your ideas.
  •  Romantic Egoism - Don't know what else to say. Despite disliking individualism, I like your style and consistency.
  • Psychedelic Liberationism - You seem alright. Read Bordiga, Stalinist (/hj)
    • - Stalinist?!
  • Sundog - I haven't studied some of these concepts you talk about, but your ideas seem quite interesting and you seem like well-read individual. Influenced by Italian left-communism, therefore great and authentic.
  • Ziółkowskiizm - Maybe a bit too aggressively in your anti-Western sentiment, but based in pretty much every other respect. I don't think interventionism is very good for international and diplomatic stability, but that's something I'm willing to overlook.
  • Lankajori Thought - Not a fan of libertarianism, but i'll support Irish nationalism any day of the week. Up the 'RA!
    • Lankajori Thought (Reëvaluation) - Pretty good too, though democracy is really mid. You should also realise that the decline of Ireland has been furthered by specific things (hint: not just British influence, but liberal-progressivism and immigration). wait, why did you wipe your page? :(

Mixed feelings

  • Alstūdism - I'm really not a fan of fascism, but at least you're more of an ethnopluralist and universal nationalist rather than just a chauvinist — though I'd still object to your revanchism, on the count of it being unworkable (especially for Norway) and likely to backfire. Overall one of the more tolerable fascists I've come across, and at least you're a socialist like Mussolini.
  •  Neocarlism - Weird, but I guess I've seen worse.
  • Distributist Reactionaryism - Distributism is okay, but I wish you were economically socialist instead of just being a corporatist (fascist). And what is culture without the nation?
  • BetterCallSneedism - I don't like fascism and I don't like pan-nationalism... though I certainly would support a revival of Celtic culture.
  •  Calmism - I'm not sure exactly what sort of 'socialism' you support, especially given that you believe in markets. Your attitude is maybe a tad too pious for my tastes, but otherwise you're okay.

Neutral

  • Venatrixism - Cool reading list, I recommend CCRU and N1x. (addendum: actually, n1x is terrible)
    • Venatrixism - I have read n1x, not a big fan.also better analysis of me plz 😔
      • - Well, I'm not sure how you'd consider yourself a communist while also being post-left and a stirnerite, but I guess you're okay.
        • Venatrixism - not really that hard to be a communist and a stirnerite and post-leftist? Don’t know what you’re pulling at here. Literally one of the first generally accepted ones to be a post-leftist, Tiqqun was communist. - ok
    • (Reëvaluation) - Many words, just to end up with 'labour is the source of all value'? Damn. Also Communism isn't 'proletarian egoism', that doesn't even make any sense. I don't think you have a very good understanding of those others things you critique and why people believe in them.
      • - you haven’t read my page in like 7 months and even then what you just is wrong, that thing I did to summarize Marx’s capital was just that and to claim that just meant “labor is the source of all value” is wrong? The proletarian egoism isn’t to say that’s what communism just is(it is the real movement to change things or at least it was), it was just a way to show how communism rejects all of these bourgeois ideas for its own good. You don’t have a very good understanding of other things.
        • - ...that's what was there at the time. i'm sorry if i misinterpreted.
    • (Reëvaluation) Venatrixism - Nietzschean anti-bourgeois NRx, interesting. Looks alright to me, though I think your nihilist spiel is a bit too theatrical. I'd agree that the Neocameral state is the best solution against democracy, though I'm still not very comfortable with the idea of unleashing Capital. Call it sentimentalism, but there's a lot of things that I'd prefer not to see bulldozed by the singularity. If I had any advice, it would be to diversify your reading list a bit (though I don't have any specific reccomendations). You either die a humanist, or live long enough to see yourself become a Landian (or something).
  • Brazilian Liberalism - Liberal, but would probably heal the country a bit.
    • (Reëvaluation) - You're okay, though I'm still very critical of your support for Israel. Also, I don't understand why exactly you consider yourself an 'imperialist'. Usually I'd object to the idea of unrestricted immigration from the rest of the Lusosphere, but considering that you're willing to deport them if they don't assimilate or if they commit a crime, then I guess it's more acceptable.
    • (Reëvaluation) - Still mediocre and liberal, but you've improved your stances on Israel and Palestine.
    • (Reëvaluation) - I'm surprised you turned around on the Israel-Palestine question. Your attitude towards foreign policy is pretty interesting, and I'd agree with non-intervention. It's always nice to sit in the middle and trading with both geopolitical blocs. In all, while still a bit too liberal (in the traditional sense) for my tastes, this is certainly better.
  • Rocksism - I'm critical of anarchism, but your ideas seem coherent and well-thought-out.
  • Schumacherianism (////) - I disagree with individualism and anarcho-capitalism, but your ideas are fairly well-developed and unique enough that I can respect it.
  • Patrick Thought - Not a fan of monarchism, but you're not too bad.

Dislike

  • Dankeism - Too liberal, too progressive. My advice is that you should read a few books by authors with a variety of different opinions, so as to explore many perspectives. Seek to understand them.
    • - I shouldn't read anything, because reading doesn't influence, I may read millions of books by [enter political author], but I will never change with that, in reality, no one influences anyone, everyone has their different opinions, even if they read all the books of Marx, Lenin or whoever nothing will change. I am on a journey of self-discovery discovering my political thoughts hidden in my mind, I influence myself, everyone does. And I repeat, if I read other authors, nothing will change
      • - I get what you mean, but reading still helps you discover things. It can make you realise things that you hadn't realised before, and so on. I recommend it.
    • (Reëvaluation) Some interesting developments. It's nice to see that your ideas are growing. Maybe still a bit too liberal and progressive for my liking, but otherwise somewhat acceptable.
  • Imperial Socialism - Have you even actually read Lenin? Also, "pay rool [sic] taxes so that the government can pay for Social Security and insurance"? You sound more like a social democrat than a communist. Please read theory, a bit of Marx at least.
    • (Reëvaluation) Still bad, sorry. I don't know what else you want me to say.
  • Nuriskianism - The Fourth Political Theory is cringe, I'm not adding that to my reading list. How exactly are you influenced by both multiculturalism AND ethnopluralism??? At least you don't seem to be an anti-Western chauvinist like Dugin. Overall, very strange.
    • (Reëvaluation) Duginite exhaust pipe
  • Volker41ism - I'm really not a fan of fascism and nazism, sorry. Also, please stop denying Axis war crimes, for Christ's sake. It's very easy to just dismiss anything that you don't like as being part of a conspiracy theory, but history isn't a fairy tale where morality is black and white.
  • Second Anidiotoncrack Thought - There's better ways to spend your time than harassing women on txitter.
  • DECBism - Liberal coal. The only compliment I can give is that you have some nuanced views, like opposing the Netanyahu government despite being a Zionist. I should point out that Ukraine can't really join NATO, since that would mean drawing all of its members into the current conflict (pretty much WWIII). Also, for a long time Ukraine has been a very corrupt country like Russia, we just ignore that now because of the war. Zelensky isn't a hero, he is only doing the bare minimum (sometimes less) of leading in his country in time of conflict. I agree with you on Turkey and the need to protect the natural environment, though I think you should realise that a liberal market system won't do that without regulations.

Much dislike

  • Theoanarchism - "I fear no man. But that thing... it scares me." - The Heavy
  • N.Brioism - Contrarianism is retarded. You're neither funny nor cool, grow up.
  • N.Cortexism - ...You're actually the same person, aren't you? Coal regardless.
  • Cosmic Vanguardism - Easily one of the worst ideologies on this site. The only thing I can give you credit for is that you're the least worst in this tier, because you don't seem completely insane and though you're a LARPer, I've seen a lot worse.
  • Hitler Rouge - God, I really hope this is a joke.
  • Schaberism - Awful edgy sadist LARP.
  • Socialist World Republic - I'm sorry but this is absolutely horrid.

Much like

  • Josip Broz Tito - The only one who could hold Yugoslavia together... wish you were still here.
  • Lee Kuan Yew - Single-handedly made Singapore into the developed country it is today!
  • Mikhail Gorbachev - The one who refused to employ the cruel methods of his predecessors. If only it hadn't been for the hard-liners...

Like

  • Enoch Powell - A prophet. Why didn't they listen...
  • Paul Kagame - Best leader in eastern Africa!
  • Aaron Bastani - A progressive with surprisingly nuanced views, very refreshing!
  • Pim Fortuyn - Despite all the slander, you kept fighting until the very end! Rest in peace.
  • Bernie Sanders - Succdem, but with some admirable dedication.
  • Richard Nixon - People judge you too harshly... but not when it comes to Cambodia.
  • Ernst Jünger - The only conservative I can really respect.
  • Valery Sablin - Mr Wholsum.

Mixed feelings

Dislike

  • Angela Merkel - Ruined Germany! Easily the second-worst chancellor the country has ever had.
  • Tony Blair - Made Britain a worse place. Why did you support the invasion of Iraq?
  • Sadiq Khan - If you want to spread lies about British history, then why on Earth are you the mayor of London?
  • Emmanuel Macron - Immature neoliberal LARPer who never should've been elected.
  • Donald Trump - Incompetent moron.
  • Joe Biden - Brain-dead moron.
  • Justin Trudeau - Cool Hitler costume. Where'd you get it, the Hitler store?
  • Boris Yeltsin - Incompetent drunkard.
  • Vladimir Putin - Chauvinist warmonger!
  • Erdoğan - Warmongering chauvinist. How dare you promote ethnic nepotism in Europe? If you want Turks to further their own interests, then they will have to do it in Turkey, and nowhere else!
  • Malcolm X - Your racialism was really distasteful, but at least you improved in the later years.
  • Margaret Thatcher - "You're the curse of the Irish nation, Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil!"
  • Rishi Sunak - Pretty terrible.
  • Boris Johnson - "It is also a habit of tyrants to prefer the company of aliens to that of citizens at table and in society; citizens, they feel, are enemies, but aliens will offer no opposition."
  • n1x - This is all bibsebse,
    • - wait, why did i write this?

Much dislike

Like

Singapore

Sweden

  • Sweden Democrats - I can't believe Leftists would lie about something being fascist! That's never happened before!

Neutral

United States

The Netherlands

  • PVV - Seems okay to me.

Japan

South Africa

  • Democratic Alliance - Well, you're probably better than the ANC — and certainly better than the EFF.

Mixed feelings

France

Germany

Japan

  • LDP - You're okay. But social reforms are becoming very necessary.

Dislike

United States

United Kingdom

Australia

France

Germany

  • SPD - Lassalle toaster.
  • AfD - Supports NATO and Israel. Still the lesser evil, but only if you can actually reduce immigration.

Japan

South Africa

Much dislike

United States

United Kingdom

Australia

France

  • Renaissance - Corrupt neoliberal globalists who are willing to do just about anything to stay in power.

Germany

  • Die Grünen - Anti-German regressive idiots who spread anti-Nuclear propaganda and lies.
  • CDU - Exceeds at giving in and breaking promises.

Japan

  • Reiwa Shinsengumi - 「多文化」？「外国人の包括的な権利」？？死ね！！！

South Africa

International

  • NATO - Nazi Aggressor Terrorist Organisation, more like!
  • WEF - I HATE THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE CLERKS I HATE THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE CLERKS I HATE

Much like

Like

Mixed feelings

Dislike

  • 2023-2024 Georgian protests - To oppose the idea of requiring NGOs to disclose their sources of income if more than 20% of their funds come from outside the country, on the basis that these laws vaguely resemble Russia policy of a government you dislike, is petty and stupid.

Much dislike

  • 2024 Moldovan European Union membership referendum - This blatant miscarriage of justice won thanks to a 0.76% margin. My dislike of the European Union aside, there's no point in a constitution if you can just amend it on a whim to ensure the government pursues any random political objective.

How to draw

Flag of National-Communitarian Theory
Color Name HEX RGB
Red #bd0000 189, 0, 0
Blue #003a84 0, 58, 132
White #ffffff 255, 255, 255
  1. Draw a ball.
  2. Fill it with red.
  3. Fill the bottom one-fifth portion with blue.
  4. Add a white circle of wheat grains, centred relative to the red section.
  5. Add a white hammer, placed vertically in the centre of the circle of wheat grains.

Theory

Completed

Reading

- An Open Letter to Open-Minded Progressives (Ch. 5 ⇥)
- A Gentle Introduction to Unqualified Reservations (Ch. 1 ⇥)
- Patchwork: A Political System for the 21st Century (Ch. 2 ⇥)

On my bookshelf

- On the Genealogy of Morals
- Ecce Homo
- Human, All Too Human
- The Joyous Science
- The End of History and the Last Man
- Political Order and Political Decay
- Kant's critical philosophy
- Nietzsche and philosophy
- Nietzsche

To read



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