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[[File:Socdem.png]] [[:category:Welfarists|Welfarists]]<br>
[[File: Trad.png]] [[:Category:Culturally Right|Culturally Right]] (Modern day)<br> [[File:Cultcenter.png]] [[:Category:Cultural Center|Cultural Variable]] (Historically)<br>
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[[File:Nation.png]] [[Nationalism]]<br>
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[[File:Hopeismsmall.png]] [[Hopeism|Hopeism]]<br>
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[[File:Welf.png]] [[Welfarism]]<br>
[[File:Welf.png]] [[Welfarism]]<br>
[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]]<br>
[[File:WelfChauvin.png]] [[Welfare Chauvinism]]<br>
[[File:WelfChauvin.png]] [[Welfare Chauvinism]]<br>
[[File:Leftnat.png]] [[Left-wing Nationalism]]<br>
[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]] (most)<br>
[[File:Rpop.png]] [[Right-wing Populism]]<br>
[[File:Rpop.png]] [[Right-Wing Populism]] (some)
[[File:Natcon.png]] [[National Conservatism]]<br>
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[[File:Socgeo.png]] [[Social Georgism]]<br>
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[[File:Long.png]] [[Longism]] (some)<br>
**[[File:Ziółkowskiizm.png]] [[Ziółkowskiizm]]<br>
[[File:Langism.png]] [[Left-Wing Populism|Langism]] (some)<br>
**[[File:Viyaraizm.png]][[Вияраизм]][[File:ViyaraizmHat.png]]
[[File:AntiLibIcon.png]] [[Anti-Liberalism]]<br>
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[[File:Kemal.png]] [[Kemalism]] (some)<br>
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[[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy]] (some)<br>
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[[File:Cardenismo.png]] [[Cardenismo]] (some)<br>
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[[File:Pron.png]] [[Peronism]] (some)<br>
*2019
[[File:Panc.png]] [[Pancasila]] (some)<br>
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[[File:Getulism.png]] [[Getulism]] (some)<br>
*[[File:Cball-Poland.png]] Poland
[[File:Saadeh.png]] [[Saadehism]] (some)<br>
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[[File:3princ.png]] [[Tridemism]] (some)<br>
|theorists = *[[File:Ziółkball.png]] [[Ziółkowskiizm|Hubert Ziółkowki]] (2004-), [[File:Cball-Poland.png]] Poland
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**[[File:Ziółkowskiizm.png]] [[Ziółkowskiizm]]
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**[[File:Hopeismsmall.png]] [[Hopeism]]
**[[File:Socnatbook.png]] [[Autocracy|Kultokratic system]]
**[[File:FiscalFedBall.png]] [[Fiscal Federalism]]
**[[File:Fed.png]] [[Federalism]]
**[[File:FreeCol.png]] [[Natcolasis]]
**[[File:russophilia.png]] [[Russophilia]]
**[[File:Volknat.png]] [[Volkish Nationalism]]
**[[File:Rpop.png]] [[Right-Wing Populism]]
**[[File:Natcon.png]] [[National Conservatism]]
**[[File:Uninat.png]] [[Universal Nationalism]]
**[[File:AntiLibIcon.png]] [[Anti-Liberalism]]
**[[File:Antiprog.png]] [[Traditionalism|Anti-Progressivism]]
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*[[File:Socnatbook.png]] [https://pdfhost.io/v/8aMADGTEE_Notes_on_Social_Nationalism Notes on Social Nationalism]
*[[File:Socnatbook2.png]] [https://pdfhost.io/v/dmiNwi5Vi_Chapters_on_Social_Nationalism Chapters on Social Nationalism]
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[[[File:Nadzieja.png]] '''Social Nationalism''' is in its most basic definition is a Nationalist state with a social economy range from left social democracy to Rhine capitalism and potentially more right wing systems. The nationalist state by nature would be authoritarian but social nationalism acknowledges the problems with unchecked power and supports a constitution which would control the power the executive holds, its modern form is also a traditionalist ideology that is against gay marriage and believes that the three purposes of life are Nation, God and Love. However, the traditional version of social nationalism was much more progressive in its historical context. This ideology is not to be confused with [[File:Nazi.png]] National Socialism. It has seen a rise in support amongst [[File:Rpop.png]] national populist European groups and may present itself as a status quo in [[File: Natcon.png]] conservative countries like Poland and Hungary. Historical examples that are close to socnat include: [[File:Kemal.png]] Kemalist Turkey, [[File:3princ.png]] Nationalist China under the KMT, and [[File:PRI.png]] Mexican Institutional Revolutionary Party, and Poland under [[File:Pilsudski.png]] Józef Piłsudski.
It believes:


*We shouldn’t strive for laissez faire capitalism, because that will lead to a degenerate culture of materialism and consumerism and we should not strive for communism either as it is inefficient and would weaken the nation
{{Bold|Social Nationalism}}, in its most basic definition, is a ideology which strives for a [[File:Nation.png]] [[Nationalism|Nationalist]] state with a [[File:Welf.png]] [[Welfarism|Welfarist]] economic model, such as [[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy]] or [[File:Soccap.png]] [[Social Capitalism|Rhine Capitalism]]. Social Nationalism is typically authoritarian in nature but usually supports a constitution by which the power of the executive is controlled and limited. Additionally, Social Nationalism is usually [[File:Trad.png]] [[Traditionalism|Traditionalist]], but may also take on some ideas that are considered to be more progressive, especially in a historical context.<br>
 
Various variants of Social Nationalism exist across the whole world and have been implemented or existed in large movements in countries including, but not limited to: [[File:Cball-Poland.png]] Poland, [[File:Cball-Hungary.png]] Hungary, [[File:Cball-Turkey.png]] Turkey, [[File:Cball-Taiwan.png]] China, [[File:Cball-Mexico]] Mexico, [[File:Cball-Syria.png]] Syria, [[Cball-Venezuela.png]] Venezuela, [[File:Cball-Bolivia.png]] Bolivia, and [[File:Cball-Finland.png]] Finland.<br>
Historical examples of Social Nationalist leaders and countries are, among others: [[File:Kemal.png]] Kemalist Turkey, [[File:Cball-Poland.png]] Poland under [[File:Pilsudski.png]] Józef Piłsudski, and [[File:3princ.png]] Nationalist China under the KMT.<br>
 
 
A modern variant of Social Nationalism, here referred to as {{Bold|Nadzieja Social Nationalism}} or {{Bold|Polish Social Nationalism}}, was developed by [[File:Ziółkball.png]] [[Ziółkowskiizm|Hubert Ziółkowki]] starting in 2019, which outlines concrete ideas for a modern Polish Social Nationalist state that abandons [[File:Lib.png]] [[Liberalism]] and supports [[File:Antiprog.png]] [[Traditionalism|Anti-Progressivism]].
 
 
=={{Bold|Beliefs}}==
Some basic values of modern interpretations of Social Nationalism can be summarized as follows:
*We shouldn’t strive for laissez faire capitalism, because that will lead to a degenerate culture of materialism and consumerism, neither should we strive for communism as it is inefficient and would weaken the nation.
*Economics should be somewhat flexible so that the system that best suits the people is what gets implemented.
*Economics should be somewhat flexible so that the system that best suits the people is what gets implemented.
*Most immigration to a country should be from culturally similar nations & people and limited to only the most skilled. Actual refugees should go to the nearest stable country that offers asylum and if no one is willing to house them then they must remain in their homeland.
*Most immigration to a country should be from culturally similar nations and peoples, typically limited to only the most skilled. Actual refugees should instead seek refuge in the nearest stable country.
*Economic migrants should be highly restricted to the needs of the nation and from nations similar ethnically and culturally to us for easy assimilation. If they have broken the law they should either be deported or imprisoned (Depending on how serious the crime is)
*Nationalism and Traditionalism should be taught in school, aligning with the virtues that would be important to teach to youth, while other values like discipline, high work ethic, honesty and unity would be encouraged.
*Nationalism, Social collectivism and Traditionalism should be taught in every school, aligning with the virtues that would be important to teach to youth, while other values like discipline, high work ethic, honesty and unity would be encouraged
 
*Intervention in foreign countries to spread nationalism further and for national gain is neccesary, but a diplomatic option should always be tried first
=={{Bold|Variants}}==
===[[File:Saadeh.png]] {{Bold|Syrian Social Nationalism}}===
<blockquote>''Main Article: [[File:Saadeh.png]] [[Saadehism]]''</blockquote>
{{Bold|Syrian Social Nationalism}}, or {{Bold|Saadehism}} is a Pan-Syrian Nationalist ideology that strives for a authoritarian greater Syrian state beyond both [[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism]] and [[File:Soc.png]] [[Socialism]]. It is espoused by the [[File:Saadeh.png]] Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP), a sizable political force in [[File:Cball-Syria.png]] Syria.
 
===[[File:Nadzieja.png]] {{Bold|Nadzieja/Polish Social Nationalism}}===
<blockquote>''See also: [[File:Ziółkowskiizm.png]] [[Ziółkowskiizm]]''</blockquote>
{{Bold|Nadzieja Social Nationalism}} or {{Bold|Polish Social Nationalism}}, as founded and espoused by [[File:Ziółkball.png]] [[Ziółkowskiizm|Hubert Ziółkowki]] is a modern interpretation of Social Nationalism in the context of Poland. It focuses especially on culture and diplomacy, leaving economics [[File:FiscalFedBall.png]] [[Fiscal Federalism|delegated to the federal subdivisions]], which have great autonomy through a unique Kraj system. It is strongly based in optimism and [[File:FreeCol.png]] [[Collectivism]], reforging both concepts into its core philosophies of [[File:Hopeismsmall.png]] [[Hopeism]] and [[File:FreeCol.png]] [[Natcolasis]] respectively.


==Stylistic notes==
===={{Bold|Government}}====
*Social Nationalism believes in secularism and so doesnt appear with religious clothing.
Nadzieja Social Nationalism is notable for its unique government system, while authoritarian in nature, the so-called [[File:Socnatbook.png]] [[Autocracy|Kultokratic system]] espouses the idea that the strong executive must be limited by a constitution and is to relegate many tasks to ministers and [[File:Fed.png]] [[Federalism|federal subdivisions]] while still allowing some forms of [[File:Dem.png]] [[Democracy]] to exist. Its federal system also includes the creation of Autonomous Krajs for national minorities, in the case of Poland this may include the Kashubians, Silesians, and Gorals.
*Has an idea of a 'Nationalist Revolution', this could either mean a coup or an actual revolution, any means to access power is valid
 
*His father nationalism really cares for him but his mother social democracy bullies him for his 'tribalism'
===={{Bold|Diplomacy}}====
*He thinks every quadrant has good ideas coming from it except LibLeft.
Strongly [[File:EastIntervention.png]] Interventionist in nature, Nadzieja Social Nationalism believes in spreading Nationalism and Anti-Liberalism via foreign intervention and the creation of a "Global Nationalist group" (GNG) in which nationalist countries respect each other and work together. It is also strongly [[File:russophilia.png]] [[Russophilia|Russophilic]], believing that Russia would be a good ally to Poland that could ward off the west, which it despises, while also helping Poland reclaim their lost lands in Ukraine.
*He doesn't read very much aside from his own written theories or History books
 
===={{Bold|Culture}}====
Culture is one of the biggest focuses of Nadzieja Social Nationalism, it wishing to create a [[File:Nation.png]] [[Nationalism|Nationalist]] and [[File:FreeCol.png]] [[Collevtivism|Collectivist]] culture that encourages [[File:Trad.png]] [[Traditionalism]] and good values like hard work or national unity. It wishes to limit immigration only to those from a similar cultural-ethnic background who must offer something in return and be loyal to the nation.<br>In general, Nadzieja Social Nationalism is strongly [[File:Antiprog.png]] Anti-Progressive and Anti-Western, believing that the West and its cultural influences, in part caused by Capitalism, are degenerate ant anti-Nationalist. It takes a [[File:Trad.png]] [[Traditionalism|Traditional]] view on most things, such as [[File:Mat.png]] [[Maternalism]] and wishing to conserve the native culture of the country. It is also somewhat [[File:Anti-Semitic.png]] [[Anti-Semitism|Anti-Semitic]] and takes a moderate stance on [[File:Gay.png]] LGBT issues.
 
===={{Bold|Stylistic notes}}====
*Social Nationalism believes in secularism and so doesn't appear with religious clothing.
*Has an idea of a 'Nationalist Revolution', this could either mean a coup or an actual revolution, any means to access power is valid.
*His father Nationalism really cares for him, but his mother Social Democracy bullies him for his 'tribalism'.
*He thinks every quadrant has some good ideas, except LibLeft.
*He doesn't read very much aside from his own written theories or History books.


==Relations==
==Relations==
===Friends===
===Friends===
*[[File:3princ.png]] [[Tridemism]] - My Chinese friend, but overtime the koumintang has become too progressive. It should return to Sun/Chiang era.
*[[File:3princ.png]] [[Tridemism]] - My Chinese friend, but overtime the Kuomintang has become too progressive. It should return to Sun/Chiang era.
*[[File:Kemal.png]] [[Kemalism]] - The more progressive Turkish vision of me. Sad to see but its better than alternatives.
*[[File:Kemal.png]] [[Kemalism]] - The more progressive Turkish vision of me. Sad to see but its better than alternatives.
*[[File:Rpop.png]] [[Right-wing Populism]] - We must reclaim our national sovereignty from the Eurocrats!
*[[File:Rpop.png]] [[Right-wing Populism]] - We must reclaim our national sovereignty from the Eurocrats!
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*[[File:Wikipedia.png]] [[:w:es:Velasquismo|Velasquismo]] (in Spanish)
*[[File:Wikipedia.png]] [[:w:es:Velasquismo|Velasquismo]] (in Spanish)
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Social Nationalism, in its most basic definition, is a ideology which strives for a Nationalist state with a Welfarist economic model, such as Social Democracy or Rhine Capitalism. Social Nationalism is typically authoritarian in nature but usually supports a constitution by which the power of the executive is controlled and limited. Additionally, Social Nationalism is usually Traditionalist, but may also take on some ideas that are considered to be more progressive, especially in a historical context.

Various variants of Social Nationalism exist across the whole world and have been implemented or existed in large movements in countries including, but not limited to: Poland, Hungary, Turkey, China, File:Cball-Mexico Mexico, Syria, Cball-Venezuela.png Venezuela, Bolivia, and Finland.
Historical examples of Social Nationalist leaders and countries are, among others: Kemalist Turkey, Poland under Józef Piłsudski, and Nationalist China under the KMT.


A modern variant of Social Nationalism, here referred to as Nadzieja Social Nationalism or Polish Social Nationalism, was developed by Hubert Ziółkowki starting in 2019, which outlines concrete ideas for a modern Polish Social Nationalist state that abandons Liberalism and supports Anti-Progressivism.


Beliefs

Some basic values of modern interpretations of Social Nationalism can be summarized as follows:

  • We shouldn’t strive for laissez faire capitalism, because that will lead to a degenerate culture of materialism and consumerism, neither should we strive for communism as it is inefficient and would weaken the nation.
  • Economics should be somewhat flexible so that the system that best suits the people is what gets implemented.
  • Most immigration to a country should be from culturally similar nations and peoples, typically limited to only the most skilled. Actual refugees should instead seek refuge in the nearest stable country.
  • Nationalism and Traditionalism should be taught in school, aligning with the virtues that would be important to teach to youth, while other values like discipline, high work ethic, honesty and unity would be encouraged.

Variants

Syrian Social Nationalism

Main Article: Saadehism

Syrian Social Nationalism, or Saadehism is a Pan-Syrian Nationalist ideology that strives for a authoritarian greater Syrian state beyond both Capitalism and Socialism. It is espoused by the Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP), a sizable political force in Syria.

Nadzieja/Polish Social Nationalism

See also: Ziółkowskiizm

Nadzieja Social Nationalism or Polish Social Nationalism, as founded and espoused by Hubert Ziółkowki is a modern interpretation of Social Nationalism in the context of Poland. It focuses especially on culture and diplomacy, leaving economics delegated to the federal subdivisions, which have great autonomy through a unique Kraj system. It is strongly based in optimism and Collectivism, reforging both concepts into its core philosophies of Hopeism and Natcolasis respectively.

Government

Nadzieja Social Nationalism is notable for its unique government system, while authoritarian in nature, the so-called Kultokratic system espouses the idea that the strong executive must be limited by a constitution and is to relegate many tasks to ministers and federal subdivisions while still allowing some forms of Democracy to exist. Its federal system also includes the creation of Autonomous Krajs for national minorities, in the case of Poland this may include the Kashubians, Silesians, and Gorals.

Diplomacy

Strongly Interventionist in nature, Nadzieja Social Nationalism believes in spreading Nationalism and Anti-Liberalism via foreign intervention and the creation of a "Global Nationalist group" (GNG) in which nationalist countries respect each other and work together. It is also strongly Russophilic, believing that Russia would be a good ally to Poland that could ward off the west, which it despises, while also helping Poland reclaim their lost lands in Ukraine.

Culture

Culture is one of the biggest focuses of Nadzieja Social Nationalism, it wishing to create a Nationalist and Collectivist culture that encourages Traditionalism and good values like hard work or national unity. It wishes to limit immigration only to those from a similar cultural-ethnic background who must offer something in return and be loyal to the nation.
In general, Nadzieja Social Nationalism is strongly Anti-Progressive and Anti-Western, believing that the West and its cultural influences, in part caused by Capitalism, are degenerate ant anti-Nationalist. It takes a Traditional view on most things, such as Maternalism and wishing to conserve the native culture of the country. It is also somewhat Anti-Semitic and takes a moderate stance on LGBT issues.

Stylistic notes

  • Social Nationalism believes in secularism and so doesn't appear with religious clothing.
  • Has an idea of a 'Nationalist Revolution', this could either mean a coup or an actual revolution, any means to access power is valid.
  • His father Nationalism really cares for him, but his mother Social Democracy bullies him for his 'tribalism'.
  • He thinks every quadrant has some good ideas, except LibLeft.
  • He doesn't read very much aside from his own written theories or History books.

Relations

Friends

  • Tridemism - My Chinese friend, but overtime the Kuomintang has become too progressive. It should return to Sun/Chiang era.
  • Kemalism - The more progressive Turkish vision of me. Sad to see but its better than alternatives.
  • Right-wing Populism - We must reclaim our national sovereignty from the Eurocrats!
  • National Conservatism - Hungary and Poland are the most based European nations.
  • Mikolayism - Like me but very homosex, generally good and nice
  • Sanationism - Mój marszałku <3, I have a framed picture of you

Frenemies

  • Social Democracy - Good economics, other than that you suck.
  • Fascism - Nationalism and being socially-oriented are both based but you are too totalitarian and extreme for my liking.
  • Conservative Socialism - You are socially too moderate and economically too left wing.
  • Boschism – we used to be friends but now you're just third way.
  • European Nationalism - Reminds me of Prometheism and Piłsudski to an extent however national sovereignty is much more important.
  • Putinism - We both oppose western degenerate liberalism and wokeism, but you are very oligarchical and corrupt.
  • Xi Jinping Thought - We both agree that western degeneracy is bad. But still, communism and totalitarianism still suck.
  • Neonationalism - You are based in general even though some of you variants are iffy.
  • Ethnic Welfarism- Too democratic, globalist, and progressive, but other than that you are a friend of me.

Enemies

  • National Socialism - The neighborhood weirdo. You ruined the image of nationalism post-45 and caused the mess we are in!
  • Maoism - Tradition and culture destroying commie who destroyed my guy Chiang Kai-shek.
  • Eurofederalism - You must die for European nations to survive.
  • Neo-Ottomanism - Cringe imperialist and Islamist scum.
  • Progressivism - You've gone too far on wokeism! It's insanity.
  • Internationalism - I pray on your downfall.

Further Reading

Similar Movements


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