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== {{Bold|Beliefs}} ==
== {{Bold|Beliefs}} ==
===[[File:Sec.png]] Authority [[File:Mach.png]]===


== {{Bold|Relations}}<ref>Please remember that all statements in this section are subjective.</ref> ==
== {{Bold|Relations}}<ref>Please remember that all statements in this section are subjective.</ref> ==
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Ideologies=
Ideologies=
===[[File:Yes.png]] Mooi===
===[[File:Yes.png]] Mooi===
*[[File:Peasants_Republic.png]] [[Peasants' Republicanism]] - Wat kunn ik seggen, dat is mien leevste System. What can I say? It's my favourite system, and I will not be shy about the reason for that largely being Patriotism. Apropos!
*[[File:Modnat.png]] [[Patriotism]] - I think everyone could use a healthy sense of pride in their country.
*[[File:Libms.png]] [[Libertarian Market Socialism]] - Seems to be my perfect economic system.
*[[File:Libms.png]] [[Libertarian Market Socialism]] - Seems to be my perfect economic system.
*[[File:LGBTReact.png]] {{PCBA|LGBT Reactionaryism}} - That's what I'm talking about! Wi bünt immer da wesen!
*[[File:LGBTReact.png]] {{PCBA|LGBT Reactionaryism}} - That's what I'm talking about! Wi bünt immer da wesen!
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*[[File:Christy.png]] [[Christian Theocracy]] - I dislike most things about Christianity, primarily how expansionist and hostile to other religions it is, and I think a full Theocracy in the modern day would be quite a bad idea (except [[File:Catheo.png]] Vatican City, that one's okay). That said, the Christian Churches were and to some extent still are very important for cohesion in (especially rural) communities.
*[[File:Christy.png]] [[Christian Theocracy]] - I dislike most things about Christianity, primarily how expansionist and hostile to other religions it is, and I think a full Theocracy in the modern day would be quite a bad idea (except [[File:Catheo.png]] Vatican City, that one's okay). That said, the Christian Churches were and to some extent still are very important for cohesion in (especially rural) communities.
===[[File:No.png]] Blixen===
===[[File:No.png]] Blixen===
*[[File:Darwinist.png]] [[Social Darwinism]] - I do not believe in this.
*[[File:Captrans.png]] [[Capitalist Transhumanism]] - The direct opposite of my ideology, decadent as can be and a primary driver of Climate Change.
*[[File:Captrans.png]] [[Capitalist Transhumanism]] - The direct opposite of my ideology, decadent as can be and a primary driver of Climate Change.
*[[File:Imp.png]] [[Imperialism]] - LEWER
*[[File:Imp.png]] [[Imperialism]] - LEWER
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*{{Psyc}} - Your critiquing of Capitalism from the angle of what it does to culture is extremely based, hence why I should really read Fisher. I can't help but feel that out ideas of what the culture should be instead are… probably different. [[File:Troll.png]]
*{{Psyc}} - Your critiquing of Capitalism from the angle of what it does to culture is extremely based, hence why I should really read Fisher. I can't help but feel that out ideas of what the culture should be instead are… probably different. [[File:Troll.png]]
===[[File:Meh.png]] Bitje Good, Bitje Slecht===
===[[File:Meh.png]] Bitje Good, Bitje Slecht===
*[[File:Panth.png]] [[Pantheonism]] - My views on your ideology have barely changed. I like the economics and parts of the social views. Socialization of land, for example, is a point we 100% share an opinion on. What I have a problem with is World Federalism, Monarchy, and Indian "Positive Secularism", since in my view, different groups of people need to be treated differently to ensure harmony. I also disagree with your "Emancipation from the Dominion of Labour" text, since I don't believe we should accept automatization.
===[[File:Kinda_No.png]] Stuur Oftokönen===
===[[File:Kinda_No.png]] Stuur Oftokönen===
*[[File:Brazlib.png]] [[Brazilian Liberalism]] - Well, what can I say, you're a Liberal. Which means your solutions to the problems you correctly identify will either not be enough, not work as intended or be needlessly cruel, and some „problems“ you list are completely different in reality than in your perception. Many of your solutions are very simplistic and stand on philosophically shaky ground. Your understanding of justice is completely based on gut feelings, your ideas on how to deal with foreign enemies are almost Trumpian in their simplicity, and your thoughts on Malthusianism and Immigration reflect a lack of understanding of how poor people operate. While being a basic liberal voter with no deeper interest in heavy theory is fine, it's weird that you kept this level of it for so long while being part of the PCB community.
*[[File:Brazlib.png]] [[Brazilian Liberalism]] - Your Nationalism is great, however I don't like your ideas about interfering in other nations. I think Liberalism is not that good a system anyway, but a punitive approach doesn't fit into a Liberal framework, and as a Libertarian, I obviously dislike central state authority. And ''please'' reconsider Imperialism.
*[[File:Nightshade.png]] [[Venatrixism]] - Your article is far from finished, therefore I'll keep this short and light: Your disdain of tradition and religion is not agreeable to me, it reads like you care more about revenge against „oppressors“ than the well-being of the people, and your article is sometimes close to non-understandable because of spelling errors.
===[[File:No.png]] Blixen===
===[[File:No.png]] Blixen===
*{{Schumacherianism}} - Your article is unconvincing, since it rests on your opinion that killing people that could live for no real reason other than „well that's my understanding of the state of nature“, with other arguments about how Social Darwinism is generally good for Society seeming extremely flimsy. Neither is your aversion to Tradition very infectious. You do not really explain why traditionalism is bad, only that it has no inherent value, and since nothing has inherent value, that „critique“ is completely redundant. The article is also extremely arrogant (especially in the Overview), obnoxiously faux-objective and full of Neologisms that, at least to me, seem to serve only the purpose of sounding cool. In short, it's typical for an Economic Right-Wing extremist. We share a Ruralist view, but that's not enough to elevate your ideology, I'm afraid.
*{{Schumacherianism}} - Your article is unconvincing, since it rests on your opinion that killing people that could live for no real reason other than „well that's my understanding of the state of nature“, with other arguments about how Social Darwinism is generally good for Society seeming extremely flimsy. Neither is your aversion to Tradition very infectious. You do not really explain why traditionalism is bad, only that it has no inherent value, and since nothing has inherent value, that „critique“ is completely redundant. The article is also extremely arrogant (especially in the Overview), obnoxiously faux-objective and full of Neologisms that, at least to me, seem to serve only the purpose of sounding cool. In short, it's typical for an Economic Right-Wing extremist. We share a Ruralist view, but that's not enough to elevate your ideology, I'm afraid.
*[[File:GManToilet.png]] [[G-Man Toiletism]] - This is very stupid.
*[[File:NBrioball.png]] [[N.Brioism]] - Also stupid.


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=={{Bold|Reading List}}<ref>The star at the end of a work indicates that it is not primarily theory, but is still relevant in a philosophical/political context.</ref>==
=={{Bold|Reading List}}<ref>The star at the end of a work indicates that it is not primarily theory, but is still relevant in a philosophical/political context.</ref>==
===Have read===
===Have read===
*[[File:Kling.png]] Marc-Uwe Kling - Quality Land (Part 1+2)*
*[[File:HPLovecraft.png]] Howard Phillips Lovecraft - The Call of Cthulhu*
*[[File:HPLovecraft.png]] Howard Phillips Lovecraft - The Call of Cthulhu*
*[[File:Niccolo_Machiavelli.png]] Niccolò Machiavelli - The Prince
*[[File:Niccolo_Machiavelli.png]] Niccolò Machiavelli - The Prince
===Reading now===
===Reading now===
*[[File:JuliusEvola.png]] Julius Evola - Orientations
*[[File:JuliusEvola.png]] Julius Evola - Orientations
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*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] Karl Marx - Das Kapital
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] Karl Marx - Das Kapital
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] Karl Marx - The Communist Manifesto
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] Karl Marx - The Communist Manifesto
*[[File:Burnham.png]] James burnham - The Machiavellians: Defenders of Freedom
===Recommendations===
===Recommendations===
*[[File:Vistula3.png]] [[Acid Communism|Maritime]]: [[File:Fisher.png]] Mark Fisher: Capitalist Realism: Is there no alternative?
*[[File:Vistula3.png]] [[Acid Communism|Maritime]]: [[File:Fisher.png]] Mark Fisher: Capitalist Realism: Is there no alternative?

Latest revision as of 21:22, 28 July 2024


Self Insert
"People can really believe anything these days!" - Ismism

This page is meant to represent Dr. Occo's political views. Please do not make any major edits without their permission.

In Development
"I'll stop reading eventually." - Left Communism

This page is still in development due to ongoing reading by Dr. Occo, multiple things may change drastically.


Overview

 Revolutionary Frisianism is the ideology of PCB contributor Dr. Occo. It differs from the former ideology, Leerderism, by being more Libertarian, more radical, and less compromising, with less of an emphasis on Mainstream Leftist points and more of one on Tradition. It is essentially a form of Libertarian Reactionary Socialism, focused on the struggle for self-determination of the Frisian people through revolutionary means.

Beliefs

Authority

Relations[1]

Mooi

  • Peasants' Republicanism - Wat kunn ik seggen, dat is mien leevste System. What can I say? It's my favourite system, and I will not be shy about the reason for that largely being Patriotism. Apropos!
  • Patriotism - I think everyone could use a healthy sense of pride in their country.
  • Libertarian Market Socialism - Seems to be my perfect economic system.
  • LGBT Reactionaryism - That's what I'm talking about! Wi bünt immer da wesen!

Up Stee

  • Democracy - I want to like and preserve Democracy, but often it is such a pathetically weak form of government that no one can get anything accomplished.
  • Traditionalism - Yes, Traditions are very important to keep, but unfortunately many people use this to launder Exclusionary rhetoric.
  • Amish Model - Very cool praxis, with the communitarian, anti-tech, traditional lifestyle, but I don't like how Christian it is. Also it's American and Americans don't have TRVE Traditions!!!

Bitje Good, Bitje Slecht

  • Reactionaryism - Most variants are too tolerant of fascism/too absolutist/too capitalist , and any pro-serfdom variant can fuck right off, but on the other hand social, political, technological and economic regression is, in my view, necessary.
  • Reactionary Socialism - I am the true Reactionary Socialist, because I support the Socialism of the Middle Ages that Feudalist Socialists pretend did not exist, or do not know about.
  • Euroskepticism - While I am something of a soft euroskeptic myself, being opposed to any further EU Expansion, I know that, in present conditions, leaving the EU would be economic and diplomatic suicide.
  • Roman Republicanism - Hell Yeah, Republics! Although this one was pretty Oligarchic and extremely Imperialist.

Stuur Oftokönen

  • Libertarianism - Most of the time they're insane conspiracy cranks, and unregulated capitalism is not the best of ideas, but sometimes they have good takes, for example that the US government is evil! They also tend to be more patriotic than their leftist counterparts, which is cool, although their loyalties lie at the market first, not the homeland.
  • Liberal Democracy - How's that „Fishing for votes by moving right“ strategy working out for you? Oh, the system is dying? That would be great news if it wasn't being replaced by dictatorships.
  • Liberal Moderatism, Satirism and Contrarianism - No, both sides are not equally bad, at least not from any liberal point of view. Also, Liberal Comedy sucks, especially in Germany.
  • Conservative Socialism - Wishing for the Cold War Communist states to return is crazy, and „Anti-Wokeness“ is extremely annoying and anyone who builds their political career on it should be ashamed of themselves. At least we agree that Tradition is important.
  • Christian Theocracy - I dislike most things about Christianity, primarily how expansionist and hostile to other religions it is, and I think a full Theocracy in the modern day would be quite a bad idea (except Vatican City, that one's okay). That said, the Christian Churches were and to some extent still are very important for cohesion in (especially rural) communities.

Blixen

  • Social Darwinism - I do not believe in this.
  • Capitalist Transhumanism - The direct opposite of my ideology, decadent as can be and a primary driver of Climate Change.
  • Imperialism - LEWER
  • Totalitarianism - DÜD
  • Feudalism - AS
  • Centralism - SKLAV!
  • Neoliberalism - Liberal Imperialism! Burn! Also I actually like when poor children have school lunches.
  • Neoconservatism - The former only it uses more blunt force and less poisonous cultural influence.
  • Anationalism - Fuck you and your stupid language! Ik werd krintenkatolschg hier!
  • World Federalism - Oh yeah, because multiethnic Federations have historically always worked perfectly. This is also just another form of Imperialism.
  • European Federalism - The EU made Article 13 a thing. Let's not give them more power, the current level is more than enough.
  • Pol Potism - THIS IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MY IDEOLOGY, KKKILLER KKKITTY IS LYING!
  • National Socialism - Conquest, Totalitarianism and Genocide bad. Truly the most controversial of opinions.

Mooi

Up Stee

  •  Psychocommunism - Your critiquing of Capitalism from the angle of what it does to culture is extremely based, hence why I should really read Fisher. I can't help but feel that out ideas of what the culture should be instead are… probably different.

Bitje Good, Bitje Slecht

  • Pantheonism - My views on your ideology have barely changed. I like the economics and parts of the social views. Socialization of land, for example, is a point we 100% share an opinion on. What I have a problem with is World Federalism, Monarchy, and Indian "Positive Secularism", since in my view, different groups of people need to be treated differently to ensure harmony. I also disagree with your "Emancipation from the Dominion of Labour" text, since I don't believe we should accept automatization.

Stuur Oftokönen

  • Brazilian Liberalism - Your Nationalism is great, however I don't like your ideas about interfering in other nations. I think Liberalism is not that good a system anyway, but a punitive approach doesn't fit into a Liberal framework, and as a Libertarian, I obviously dislike central state authority. And please reconsider Imperialism.

Blixen

  • Schumacherianism - Your article is unconvincing, since it rests on your opinion that killing people that could live for no real reason other than „well that's my understanding of the state of nature“, with other arguments about how Social Darwinism is generally good for Society seeming extremely flimsy. Neither is your aversion to Tradition very infectious. You do not really explain why traditionalism is bad, only that it has no inherent value, and since nothing has inherent value, that „critique“ is completely redundant. The article is also extremely arrogant (especially in the Overview), obnoxiously faux-objective and full of Neologisms that, at least to me, seem to serve only the purpose of sounding cool. In short, it's typical for an Economic Right-Wing extremist. We share a Ruralist view, but that's not enough to elevate your ideology, I'm afraid.
  • G-Man Toiletism - This is very stupid.
  • N.Brioism - Also stupid.

Mooi

Up Stee

Bitje Good, Bitje Slecht

Stuur Oftokönen

  • Jordan B. Peterson - I like the comment about integrating gay people into traditional marriage, but apart from that he's just an extremely weird Right-Wing culture Warrior posing as a wise polymath.
  • Olaf Scholz - The SPD should be a Social Democratic Party, and he stands in the way of that.

Blixen

  • Saddam Hussein - Genocidal War Criminal who invaded his neighbors and oppressed the Kurds and Kuwaitis. I'm glad he got his ass beat in 1990.
  • George W. Bush - Also a War Criminal who somehow got away with starting two devastating wars. Responsible for one of the worst decisions in the 21st century: Disbanding the Iraqi army.
  • Emmanuel Macron - Least Imperialist & Authoritarian French Leader be like:

User Test

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    • Egoist (0)
    • Anarchist (+10)
    • Minarchist (+5)
    • Libertarian (+20)
    • Moderate/Mixed (+10)
    • Statist (+5)
    • Dictablanda (-5)
    • Authoritarian (-10)
    • Totalitarian (-15)
    • Orwellian (-20)
  • Type of Rule Axis
    • (Anarchist) Anti-Democracy (+10)
    • Direct Democracy (0)
    • Semi-Direct Democracy (+20)
    • Representative Democracy (+5)
    • Authoritarian Democracy (-10)
    • Totalitarian Democracy (-20)
    • (Authoritarian) Anti-Democracy (-15)
  • If none above apply...
    • Organic Centralism (-10)
  • Economic Axis
    • Marxist Communist (-5)
    • Socialist (+20)
    • Welfarist (+10)
    • Moderate/Mixed (0)
    • Liberal Economics (-10)
    • Capitalist (-15)
  • If none above apply...
    • Third Positionism (+5)
    • Anti-Economy (0)
    • Non-Marxist Communist (+15)
    • Gift Economy (+5)
  • Economic Freedom
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    • Dirigisme (-10)
    • Regulationism (+20)
    • Moderate/Mixed (+15)
    • Liberal Economics (-5)
    • Free Market (-15)
    • Laissez-Faire (-20)
  • If none above apply...
    • Central Planned (-20)
    • Decentral Planned (+15)
  • Diplomatic Axis
    • Autarchy (+5)
    • Autarky (+10)
    • (Alter-) Globalist (-10)
    • World Federalist (-20)
    • Cosmopolitan (-5)
    • Internationalist (0)
    • Moderate (+5)
    • Patriotic (+15)
    • Nationalist (+10)
    • Chauvinist (-15)
    • Racial Nationalist (or similar broad category) (-20)
    • Ethno-Nationalist (or similar narrow category) (-5)
    • Universal Nationalist (+20)
  • Geopolitics
    • Western (-20)
    • Western Adjacent (-10)
    • Non-Aligned (+20)
    • East Adjacent (-10)
    • Eastern (-20)
  • Cultural Axis
    • Revolutionary (-10)
    • Progressive (+5)
    • Reformist (+10)
    • Moderate (+10)
    • Mixed (+20)
    • Conservative (-10)
    • Traditionalist (+5)
    • Reactionary (+10)
  • Technological Axis
    • Primal (-20)
    • Primitivist (-10)
    • Pre-Industrial (+10)
    • Deceleration (+20)
    • Moderate (+10)
    • Acceleration (-5)
    • Automated (-10)
    • Transhumanist (-15)
    • Posthumanist (-20)
  • If none of the above apply...
    • Post-Civilization (-5)
    • Archeofuturism (+5)
  • Environmental Axis
    • Human Extinction (-20)
    • Radical Environmentalism (+20)
    • Eco-Fascism (+5)
    • Ecocentrism (+5)
    • Environmentalist (+10)
    • Moderate (0)
    • Post-Industrialism (-5)
    • Industrialist (-15)
    • Anthropocentric (-10)
    • Anti-Environmentalism (-20)
  • Neurological Axis
    • Anti-Praxis (-5)
    • Utopian (0)
    • Dogmatic (-10)
    • Idealist (+5)
    • Moderate/Mixed (+10)
    • Realist (+15)
    • Pragmatic (+20)
    • Rational (+5)
    • Dystopian (-15)
    • Anti-Theory (-20)
  • War Axis
    • Pacifism (+10)
    • Non-Engagement (+15)
    • De-Escalation (+20)
    • Intervention (-15)
    • Irredentism (0)
    • Revanchism (-10)
    • Jingoism (-20)
  • If none above apply...
    • (International) Class Warfare (-10)
  • Praxis
    • Insurrectionism (-5)
    • Revolutionism (+20)
    • Moderate/Mixed (+15)
    • Reformism (+5)
    • Stagnationism (-10)

Post your results here:

Reading List[2]

Have read

  • Marc-Uwe Kling - Quality Land (Part 1+2)*
  • Howard Phillips Lovecraft - The Call of Cthulhu*
  • Niccolò Machiavelli - The Prince

Reading now

  • Julius Evola - Orientations
  • Friedrich Nietzsche - Ecce Homo
  • George Orwell - 1984*

Plan to read

  • Karl Marx - Das Kapital
  • Karl Marx - The Communist Manifesto
  • James burnham - The Machiavellians: Defenders of Freedom

Recommendations

  • Maritime: Mark Fisher: Capitalist Realism: Is there no alternative?
  • Maritime: Mark Fisher: Left Hyperstition 1: The Fictions of Capital
  • Maritime: Mark Fisher: Exiting the Vampire Castle
  • Nurisk: Alexander Dugin - Templars of the Proletariat
  •  Baxism: [ʒɑ̃'ʒak ʁu'so] - „Vom Gesellschaftsvertrag oder Prinzipien des Staatsrechtes“.

Navigation

  1. Please remember that all statements in this section are subjective.
  2. The star at the end of a work indicates that it is not primarily theory, but is still relevant in a philosophical/political context.